Popular Post Idig32 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 Last night, there was a stretch from about 6 minutes left in the game, until around 2 minutes left, where it felt like the guys had a chance to come back and steal the win. The defensive intensity was great, and the rebounding was solid during that stretch. However, the offense was not good enough. I’m convinced after watching the game last night that there are a few things that would help the team (I could be wrong about all of these): This team should be playing a Baylor style 2-3 zone most of the time. Or some other zone that funnels drives to a shot-blocker and enables our guards to be more aggressive on the ball and in helping off the ball. Ashton Smith should be the starting center. His physical dominance and defensive intensity are unmatched by any of the other bigs. Issac McBride needs a break in each half. Especially from being the point guard. I think giving Amboree 3-4 minutes in each half to run the point would be beneficial for this season, but also looking towards next season. This one may be controversial, but I think the offense is better off shooting more threes than driving into the middle of the defense and shooting a really difficult shot. I like passing into the post more too. I don’t like all the drives into 2 or 3 guys. Basically, more passing the ball around on offense and guys shooting off the catch. Also, the trapping defense is really good. They should spring that on teams randomly throughout games. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORUTerry Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Good analysis. Not sure why we aren’t doing most (all?) of this. I’m amazed that McBride continues to play 40 minutes a game. Can the coaches not see that he is physically (and mentally) fatigued? That’s why he dribbled the ball off his leg at the end of the first half. We don’t have a true point guard except Amboree - who rarely plays. Hard to play him now after a season of watching from the bench. We should have played him (and others) earlier in the year. Not sure why we aren’t running any offense. Way too much dribbling and then driving to the basket to either take heavily contested shots or get stuck under the basket with limited options. Not a fan of one on one basketball. Our offense, such as it is, is very predictable and easy to guard. Our lack of effort in games is puzzling. Why do the guys seem to be listless/without energy during games at times? Is that something the coaches can fix? I would play the guys on the bench - but what do I know? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeagleman5 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 TheEagleman is also starting to wonder about the coaches....is it coaching or players?.....can't say....a little of both I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORU40 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 11 minutes ago, theeagleman5 said: TheEagleman is also starting to wonder about the coaches....is it coaching or players?.....can't say....a little of both I guess? The buck stops with the head coach. The HC builds the roster, he runs practice and determines style of play, he decides who plays, and if they aren't listening to him...why are they playing? Basketball teams are ultimately measured by wins & losses, but INMO the next most important measure is improvement, is the team improving? The answer to this year's Eagles to me is NO we are not improving. We have the same glaring deficiencies in our play in game 25 that we had in game 1! No D, poor rebounding, can't set a screen, stupid fouls, one on one offense! Can anyone point out something we do better now than we did at the start of the season? The coach gets the credit when the team is winning, he has to take the blame when they aren't! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Henderson Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 ORU has three guards that have played well all year: McBride, Thompson, and Bedford. The rest of the team has struggled. How does DJ put up 32 on SDSU and since then is averaging 6 points a game? The guy has played in 150 games and still he just disappears for multiple contests. Springmann is learning what does not work and it will probaly take him about 2-3 years to figure things out. I think the most disappointing thing about the season is that ORU has been so successful, a mid major darling, and now they are basically back to ground zero again. How fast success fades in the college basketball world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2014Grad Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, ORU40 said: The buck stops with the head coach. The HC builds the roster, he runs practice and determines style of play, he decides who plays, and if they aren't listening to him...why are they playing? Basketball teams are ultimately measured by wins & losses, but INMO the next most important measure is improvement, is the team improving? The answer to this year's Eagles to me is NO we are not improving. We have the same glaring deficiencies in our play in game 25 that we had in game 1! No D, poor rebounding, can't set a screen, stupid fouls, one on one offense! Can anyone point out something we do better now than we did at the start of the season? The coach gets the credit when the team is winning, he has to take the blame when they aren't! Edited February 16 by 2014Grad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeagleman5 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 2-3 Years? HCRS will be fired long before then if his guys don't figure it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbl78 Posted February 17 Popular Post Share Posted February 17 13 hours ago, theeagleman5 said: 2-3 Years? HCRS will be fired long before then if his guys don't figure it out. No way that happens, barring some type of moral failure. It is very difficult to maintain a constant winning program with changes in coaches at the mid-major level. A review of the past four coaching changes bears this out. Of the last four coaches, Self, Hinson, Sutton, and Mills, only Hinson had a winning record in either of his first two years. I share the disappointment that many of you feel in the performance of this years team, however I am not ready to throw HCRS under the bus. I have to believe that it is a huge transition from being the assistant coach to being the head man. We saw this in the baseball program. If you were to go back and reread some old baseball threads, there were those who wanted to get rid of Folmar early in his tenure- which clearly would have been a mistake. HCRS is probably more disappointed in this season, than all of us together, but it will take time for him to make the program truly his. I believe that when this happens, we will all be members of the HCRS fan club. 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeagleman5 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 To clarify....TheEagleman loves Coach Springmann and do NOT want him fired....agree he needs a couple more years to right the ship which was kind of left bare when Paul Mills left...losing Max, Connor and Mwamba really hurt....yeah i am disappointed but not shocked we are below .500.....just thought we would see more hustle and drive from a team that includes leaders like McBride, Thompson and Weaver....I have no explanations for the inconsistent play.....saw a lot of the same stuff at Rider last night...the home team sleepwalked thru the first 30 minutes vs. a mediocre Mt. St. Mary's team then turned on the press defense got some TO's and turned a 13 point deficit into a 4 point win.....hoping that ORU will rebound at home tonight vs. a good UND team but one we should take at Mabee Center....so let's do it....will HCRS show up for his radio show tonight? Keep TheEagleman posted.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg1984 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 16 hours ago, theeagleman5 said: 2-3 Years? HCRS will be fired long before then if his guys don't figure it out. Maybe when Oral was there but not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Henderson Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 NDSU led Denver 52-32 and lost by 6 today! It will be interesting to see how the Bison handles this kind of melt down going forward. Bruener had 41 points and was on fire in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg1984 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 16 minutes ago, Keenan Henderson said: NDSU led Denver 52-32 and lost by 6 today! It will be interesting to see how the Bison handles this kind of melt down going forward. Bruener had 41 points and was on fire in the second half. Wow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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