Records are falling

[Old Titan]

1 hour ago, Dave Connor said:

That's great for Max, but when looking at "all time in points scored at the D1 level in college basketball history" let's keep in mind that prior to 1986 there was no 3-point line in the NCAA. Imagine how many points Richard Fuqua, Pistol Pete, Jerry West, etc. would have scored if they had the 3-point line.

In all fairness, defense back then was not the priority it is now; it was easier to get a shot off.  And it was not uncommon for the designated "shooter" on a particular team (like Fuqua, Maravich, etc.) to shoot between 25-to-35 times a game.

Different game, different time...

[Keenan Henderson]

As we head to the Big Dance, I am reminded that Max scored 25 or more in his first three tourney games.  The last person to do that was none other than Stephen Curry, who did it in 4 straight games.  Can Max beat his record, maybe?  Max is Curry Jr!

[ORU40]

20 hours ago, Old Titan said:

In all fairness, defense back then was not the priority it is now; it was easier to get a shot off.  And it was not uncommon for the designated "shooter" on a particular team (like Fuqua, Maravich, etc.) to shoot between 25-to-35 times a game.

Different game, different time...

Have to strongly disagree...in all fairness, in the pre-3 point shot era defense was the main priority (outside of the few run & gun programs).  You didn't play D you didn't get on the court. The conventional wisdom and the way the game was taught at all levels because of winning coaches like Iba, Wooden and Knight was defense first. Even into the mid 80's until the 3-point era, it may have been easy to say otherwise on press row but to get a shot off on the court against a Nolan Richarson or Eddie Sutton team was hard work.   

 

[Old Titan]

17 minutes ago, ORU40 said:

Have to strongly disagree...in all fairness, in the pre-3 point shot era defense was the main priority (outside of the few run & gun programs).  You didn't play D you didn't get on the court. The conventional wisdom and the way the game was taught at all levels because of winning coaches like Iba, Wooden and Knight was defense first. Even into the mid 80's until the 3-point era, it may have been easy to say otherwise on press row but to get a shot off on the court against a Nolan Richarson or Eddie Sutton team was hard work.   

 

Then we'll just have to agree to disagree, because I know what I saw back then in the 70's and early 80's before the 3-point line was introduced.

All you have to do is pull up ANY video of how the college game was played in the 70's to prove my point.  With the exception of a few teams that played full-court pressure defense (like UNLV under Jerry Tarkanian), the style of defense is completely different than today's game.  You see guys just STANDING STRAIGHT UP on the offside while the offensive action is taking place on the opposite side of the court.  Sure most games were low scoring, but that was before the shot clock, and a lot of teams that were considered defensive stalwarts were actually playing defense ON OFFENSE by running motion offenses that ran the other opponent ragged trying to keep up (Indiana under Bobby Knight in the 70's, Arkansas under Eddie Sutton, etc.)

And the action was much more compacted toward the lane, because with only a few exceptions, teams didn't have more than a couple of players on the floor who were a threat to shoot a 25-footer, and if they did it was only for two points.  The 3-point line and the dribble-drive/umbrella offenses hav made it harder to hide weak defensive players in your line-up, and made it necessary for nearly EVERYONE on the floor to be able to get out on the perimeter and defend the three, as ORU is going to prove to some unsuspecting 5-seed in the first round if they think they can keep their post man standing in the paint on defense.