Keenan Henderson Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Yahoo sports is reporting that the NCAA is going to increase college basketball from 13 to 15 scholarships per team in 25-26. How does this help ORU going forward? Maybe walk-ons are no longer needed because you can have 5 guys that run the practice team and then the other 10 are the ones who play on a more regular basis. I think it helps the high school guys to have a better shot at making a D1 roster. Next year Springmann can also red shirt a couple of players and if some guys do not work out, then he is not in the hole. I guess the math is now if 5 players are not ready yet then you still have 10 guys who can fill in, instead of 8. Just gives the Eagles more wiggle room with developing players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue82 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, Keenan Henderson said: Yahoo sports is reporting that the NCAA is going to increase college basketball from 13 to 15 scholarships per team in 25-26. How does this help ORU going forward? Maybe walk-ons are no longer needed because you can have 5 guys that run the practice team and then the other 10 are the ones who play on a more regular basis. I think it helps the high school guys to have a better shot at making a D1 roster. Next year Springmann can also red shirt a couple of players and if some guys do not work out, then he is not in the hole. I guess the math is now if 5 players are not ready yet then you still have 10 guys who can fill in, instead of 8. Just gives the Eagles more wiggle room with developing players. The challenge is that this gives all of the Power 5 schools two more scholarships for players to sit on their bench, which they will use to convince top ORU high school recruits to come play in the Power 5 with a "promise" of playing time. Some of the recruits will buy into their marketing approach, waste a season sitting on the bench, and then transfer out through the portal. So for ORU, it could increase the impact of the portal and reduce the emphasis on high school recruiting. We will see... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogus Smith Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 13 hours ago, TrueBlue82 said: The challenge is that this gives all of the Power 5 schools two more scholarships for players to sit on their bench, which they will use to convince top ORU high school recruits to come play in the Power 5 with a "promise" of playing time. Some of the recruits will buy into their marketing approach, waste a season sitting on the bench, and then transfer out through the portal. So for ORU, it could increase the impact of the portal and reduce the emphasis on high school recruiting. We will see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Henderson Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 It will also be challenging for Coach Springmann to keep 15 guys happy because now he may have 6 or 7 players who mainly sit on the bench. Then they are a free agent at the end of the year and can transfer. It has its pros and cons: ORU has extra guys now that they can recruit but the players have more options too. It might also open up the door to bring over some more international guys (such as a Lacis or Jurgens) to fill out the roster. Welcome to the wild wild west of college basketball! Never a dull moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORUJason Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Makes it tough for Div 2 and NAIA teams as the level of athlete available to them will drop as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Henderson Posted July 31 Author Share Posted July 31 At first it does not seem like much: 2 extra scholarships but with 350 teams that adds up quickly. Football went up from 85 to 105, so it was really a huge step for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogus Smith Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Keenan Henderson said: At first it does not seem like much: 2 extra scholarships but with 350 teams that adds up quickly. Football went up from 85 to 105, so it was really a huge step for them. Not only that, but you have to double the cost of these scholarships because of Title IX implications. You add 2 extra scholarships for men's basketball, 20 extra scholarships for football, 23 extra scholarships for baseball and then multiply that by 2 genders (there are two genders still, aren't there?) and you're talking about a lot of $$$ for tuition, room, board, cost of attendance, textbooks, travel, etc. If there is ever any question as to whether ORU will have football in the future, the door wasn't just slammed shut with the House v. NCAA decision, but it was nailed, super glued, and locked. At ~ $50K per athlete (where state schools are much less due to your tax dollars subsidizing these institutions), ORU and other private university are at a distinct competitive disadvantage in attracting and affording student-athletes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagleFan Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Would be shocked to see MBB add any more scholarships. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if they chose to eliminate one and go down to 12. The reason is exactly what @Bogus Smithsaid. In order to afford the $3,450,000 additional costs (every year I might add) $1,150,000 for baseball $400,000 for Men’s/Womens Golf $1,600,000 for Men’s/Womens Soccer $300,000 for Volleyball Where does the money come from? Do schools like ORU drop down to D2? Do they drop certain athletic programs altogether? This isn’t even accounting for track or tennis. Do they drop coaching positions? In a time where every dollar is being pulled towards NIL, who is going to start to donate to scholarships? Any ideas? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Henderson Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 That is a good point Golden Eagle Fan: some teams will stay at their normal 12 or 13 scholarships and others will go 15. It just gives schools more flexiablility. There is no law that says you have to have 15 players to stay at D1 but it gives teams more options. Coach Cal at Arkansas says he only wants 9-10 guys because the rest will just sit on the bench and then transfer after he develops them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Titan Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Another OPPORTUNITY for some niche marketing: "We're not a big box store; we're a basketball boutique brand. We only offer 12 scholarships. You come here, and you're immediately that much closer to the starting five." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogus Smith Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Injuries are part of the game that goes into recruiting. You need to plan for a deep bench so that those that get hurt will have a quality backup behind them. Additionally, you can get several players with 20+ minutes of playing time and they really won't care whether they're starting or coming off the bench as long as they are contributing with their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cornelius Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Adding another player to the roster is not a positive development in my opinion. If anything the roster should contract and more guys should play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogus Smith Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 2 hours ago, Dr. Cornelius said: Adding another player to the roster is not a positive development in my opinion. If anything the roster should contract and more guys should play. Until you're playing with 6-7 scholarship players due to injuries. Then, you're getting run out of the gym. Get players that love to play, and players that love to play with guys that love to play, and you'll have a successful team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cornelius Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 5 minutes ago, Bogus Smith said: Until you're playing with 6-7 scholarship players due to injuries. Then, you're getting run out of the gym. We saw that last year with 13 healthy players. I don’t think adding another ego to manage helps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogus Smith Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 43 minutes ago, Dr. Cornelius said: We saw that last year with 13 healthy players. I don’t think adding another ego to manage helps. I think that there were pieces of last year's team that didn't enjoy playing with each other. You're correct that too many egos will spoil the chemistry of a team, but I don't think it is based on the number of players. Calipari has an interesting attitude - why develop guys at the end of the bench so that they just leave for other schools? If you are a coach that loves your players and appreciates their talents, you are going to invest your time and talents into that kid to make them better regardless of whether they stay with you or not. Russ is that type of coach and we should support that. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cornelius Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 hour ago, Bogus Smith said: I don't think that there were pieces of last year's team enjoyed playing with each other. You're correct that too many egos will spoil the chemistry of a team, but I don't think it is based on the number of players. Calipari has an interesting attitude - why develop guys at the end of the bench so that they just leave for other schools? If you are a coach that loves your players and appreciates their talents, you are going to invest your time and talents into that kid to make them better regardless of whether they stay with you or not. Russ is that type of coach and we should support that. Valid point. It really does depend on the coach and the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagleFan Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 In a perfect world, players 12+13 should redshirt and leave 11 scholarship players eligible to suit up for each game. Redshirting really helps with the chemistry of the locker room in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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