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The students are back from the holiday break, so it should be a lively crowd on Thursday night.  Thoughts on the North Dakota game?

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The Fighting Hawks just a tasty orderve before we feast on  NDSU Saturday Night...more stats to be analyzed and film to be watched before a final prediction but ORU by at least 20....🤑

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I hope Max goes for 40

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Listened to the latest Reaching the Summit podcast and the announcers said UND has had some injury problems.  A couple of their starters have been out and another, Mitchell Suker, was playing on a bum ankle.  They have a week off, so it will be interesting to see if UND is healed up by Thursday night.  If the Hawks have all their guys back then it could be an interesting game, otherwise ORU should win in a blowout.

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3 hours ago, Keenan Henderson said:

Listened to the latest Reaching the Summit podcast and the announcers said UND has had some injury problems.  A couple of their starters have been out and another, Mitchell Suker, was playing on a bum ankle.  They have a week off, so it will be interesting to see if UND is healed up by Thursday night.  If the Hawks have all their guys back then it could be an interesting game, otherwise ORU should win in a blowout.

Did you like the part where the host spent all of about 30 seconds breaking down ORU by saying, “Well, we all know the talking points on ORU; really don’t want to spend any time going over those again.”

Seriously??  This after they just spent 15 minutes on NDSU’s injury situations. 

I’ve thought about volunteering my own 10-minute ORU recap for their show, but every title I consider for the segment comes across as potentially obscene. #LetsJustLeaveItAtThat 😳

 

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3 hours ago, Old Titan said:

Did you like the part where the host spent all of about 30 seconds breaking down ORU by saying, “Well, we all know the talking points on ORU; really don’t want to spend any time going over those again.”

Seriously??  This after they just spent 15 minutes on NDSU’s injury situations. 

I’ve thought about volunteering my own 10-minute ORU recap for their show, but every title I consider for the segment comes across as potentially obscene. #LetsJustLeaveItAtThst 😳

 

The ORU question they asked was, Is Max the greatest player in Summit League history?  They said greatest scorer, but Mike Daum and John Konchar are better all-around players in recent history.  I would throw Caleb Green in the conversation also because he averaged around 20 and 10 a good chunk of his career. That was an interesting topic.  

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12 hours ago, Keenan Henderson said:

The ORU question they asked was, Is Max the greatest player in Summit League history?  They said greatest scorer, but Mike Daum and John Konchar are better all-around players in recent history.  I would throw Caleb Green in the conversation also because he averaged around 20 and 10 a good chunk of his career. That was an interesting topic.  

Yeah, they said "well, maybe he's the best scorer, but...", like that was some sort of indictment.

Reminds me of Buddy Ryan's assessment of Chris Carter when he infamously cut him from the Philadelphia Eagles:  "All he does is catch touchdowns". 

Carter went on to a Hall of Fame career with the Minnesota Vikings.  Some athletes simply are not appreciated by short-sighted critics for doing the most important things really well.

 

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Those guys are Tweedledumb and Tweedledee.......ORU will roast the Fighting Hawks on a spit tomorrow night at Mabee Center.....UND may as well start LMU Emu at PG.....TheEagleman has just about finished his pregame analysis and it's looking like a very tall task for the visitors from the North......ORU will roll......:hc_mills:

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Here is a link to the UND message board; this is a thread started by a poster with a good summation of ORU:  https://forum.siouxsports.com/topic/32317-und-4-14-0-5-oru-12-6-6-1-120-7-pm/

UND is 4-14 on the season and 0-5 in league play. They are fairly young and have some players out with injuries.

Here is a link to their stats:    UND Stats

In conference play:

PPG:    73.6   (8th);  they allow 85 ppg  (9th)

FG%:   43.4%  (8th);  they allow 50.2%  (10th)

3pt%:   32.5%  (8th);  they allow  37.5%  (7th)

3pt attempts:   23.4

Assists:  9.4    (8th)

Turnovers:  12.8   (2nd)

Reb Margin:   +1.2

 

Players:

Bruns  (6'4" - FR)

PPG:  16.8

FG%:   40.5%

3pt%:  43.8%  (6.4 attempts)

Reb:   7.4

Assists:   1.4

Turnovers:  1.8

 

Norman   (6'4" - SO)

PPG:  15.4

FG%:   52.0%

3pt%:  37.5%  (6.4 attempts)

Reb:   3.6

Assists:   1.4

Turnovers:  1.0

 

Tsartsidzc   (6'9" - FR)

PPG:  12.4

FG%:   55.0%

Reb:   6.8

Assists:   1.2

Turnovers:  1.4

 

Panoam   (6'2" - SR)

PPG:  9.0

FG%:   43.6%

3pt%:  31.3%  (3.2 attempts)

Reb:   3.0

Assists:   1.6

Turnovers:  1.8

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They are arguably getting better as their young squad gains experience. They played tough against WIU and led the game late in the second half before losing by 5. They outrebounded the Leathernecks by 9 - a team that outrebounded us by 11.  It is important not to look past UND, but play them with maximum intensity & effort.

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That post on the ND board is awesome. Should be in a newspaper. 

If we play as we should, we win by 15. ORU 80 ND 65.

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ORU stats (per Sports Reference) show that the Golden Eagles (arguably) rank as the #1 defensive team in the Summit League:

(conference stats)

PPG:    85.7  (2nd)   opponents:   72.4  (3rd)

FG%:    48.1% (2nd)  opponents:  41.0%  (1st)

3pt%:   39.9% (2nd)   opponents:  27.7%  (1st)

3pt attempts:  31.1  (1st)

Assists:   12.1   (5th)

Turnovers:  11.1  (6th)

Rebounds:   40.7   (1st)

Reb Margin:   +7.7

 

I thought that UMKC would show low opponent FG% and 3pt% - but they allow 48.2% FG% (8th) and 38.2% from 3pt (9th). I think we affected these figures with our shooting performance against them. Their rebounding margin is -11.2

Statistically, the other two comparable defensive teams per conference stats are SDSU:  the allow 44.5% FG%  (2nd) and 36.6% from 3pt (6th) with a rebounding margin of +6.3 and NDSU: they allow 46.3% FG%  (10th) and 29.6% from 3pt  (2nd) with a +3.2 rebounding margin.

Surprisingly, Western Illinois has a negative 1.5 rebounding margin - but a +3.3 offensive rebounding margin.... that looks weird.

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The University of North Dakota is a fine academic institution with a long history of athletic excellence...unfortunately, they won't be playing Ice Hockey at Mabee Center tomorrow night....TheEagleman is going to virtually assure everyone on this board that this game will feature total dominance by a hungry and well rested ORU squad....depending on how quickly Coach Mills empties his bench I think there is a chance that Max could go for a season high.....but again, he may play less than his usual 38 minutes......the Golden Eagles will score a lot of points......thinking 100 is very possible.......ORU 104  UND 76.....GO BLUE!!! 😎

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Fighting Hawks in for a world of trouble tomorrow night......:shield-logo:   VS. :und:

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ORU-21....wow! TheEagleman gives the Good Guys a 100% chance of winning. :shield-logo:

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Well now....TheEagleman never said this was a guaranteed cover....Coach Mills may end up spreading the minutes around....21 is a big number....and so is the O/U of 158.5....😎

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I agree with The Eagleman that "The University of North Dakota is a fine academic institution with a long history of athletic excellence..." I received my MA in 1976 from UND after my BA at ORU. Shortly after I left UND, the basketball team was nicknamed "The God Squad", because they had so many dedicated Christians on the team - and most of the players that weren't Christians, gave their hearts to Jesus while on the team. North Dakota is a great place to live, but I wouldn't want to live there.

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OOPS! I meant to say North Dakota is a great place to live, but I wouldn't want to VISIT there.

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1 hour ago, Dave Connor said:

OOPS! I meant to say North Dakota is a great place to live, but I wouldn't want to VISIT there.

girls look GIF

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Tough game to wager on.....TheEagleman knows ORU is going to roll and Coach Mills will clear the bench once he gets a big 2nd half lead....of course our bench players could probably beat UND by themselves....I still think this is an easy 25 point victory with lots of scoring so will make my wager on ORU and the Over.....not a huge play....the more entertaining contest will be Saturday Night against the Bison.....hopefully a large raucous crowd in attendence.....but expecting a decent number tonight at Mabee also....Go Blue!!!   :tb-blue:

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I don't think we should ever underestimate an opponent. Didn't we think we'd beat Central Arkansas? Just sayin'. We SHOULD win, but let's just cheer loud and be happy that we're doing so much better this season.

Guess who just walked in? Joe!

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