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Old Titan

The first preseason projection I've seen (of many to come), and it's not pretty:  another 20-loss season??  Dead-last in the Summit League?

(click on individual team for game-by-game predictions, estimated player stats, etc.)   http://www.barttorvik.com/conf.php?conf=Sum

The individual player stats are a bit silly:  Kennedy Milton is not even listed, and he may start.  I would trust ORUBlue82's assessment in that area MUCH more than these "analytic" formulas.

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Dr. Cornelius

I can’t really disagree with this projection. Looking at the previous 5 seasons as a trend it makes sense.

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ORUParentLurker

I wonder what the projection is removing RJ and Jones.  And who is Morgan?

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Dr. Cornelius
17 minutes ago, ORUParentLurker said:

I wonder what the projection is removing RJ and Jones.  And who is Morgan?

Jamichael Morgan was a spring 2016 signee who never made it to campus. Morgan the attended Link Year Prep after high school.

Most recently Morgan signed with Lavar Ball’s JBA basketball league.

 

 

 

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ORUalum

SDSU beat writer...

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Dr. Cornelius

Street & Smith's College Basketball Preview

  1. SDSU
  2. South Dakota
  3. Denver
  4. Purdue Fort Wayne
  5. ORU
  6. Omaha
  7. NDSU
  8. North Dakota
  9. WIU

Athlon College Basketball Preview

  1. SDSU
  2. South Dakota
  3. Denver
  4. Fort Wayne
  5. NDSU
  6. North Dakota
  7. ORU
  8. Omaha
  9. WIU

Blue Ribbon Basketball Yearbook Preview

  1. SDSU
  2. South Dakota
  3. Purdue Fort Wayne
  4. Denver
  5. NDSU
  6. ORU
  7. Omaha
  8. North Dakota
  9. WIU

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theeagleman5

Let's face it....we have so many new players...who can know how good or bad ORU is going to be?....they don't....heck, we don't....D.J. Weaver might be the next Lebron James....or he could be the next Rick James.....time will tell....I wonder why there are no pre-season games this year?....TheEagleman would love to see the team on the floor once.....I guess just a Blue-White game?....:tb-blue:

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Dr. Cornelius

I can see why Denver might be picked above ORU with their grad transfers but I don't see NSDU or North Dakota finishing higher. Also, why all the respect for USD without Mooney?

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Old Titan
16 hours ago, Dr. Cornelius said:

I can see why Denver might be picked above ORU with their grad transfers but I don't see NSDU or North Dakota finishing higher. Also, why all the respect for USD without Mooney?

Because historically all the Dakota teams have finished in the top half of the league.

They all have formidable home court advantages and have traditionally performed well in Sioux Falls. 

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ORUTerry

They're guessing....

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Dr. Cornelius
34 minutes ago, Old Titan said:

Because historically all the Dakota teams have finished in the top half of the league.

They all have formidable home court advantages and have traditionally performed well in Sioux Falls. 

These are good points but a new coach and the loss of Mooney will be big for USD.

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Old Titan

More sobering prognostications:  RealtimeRPI.com (who really needs to change their name now that RPI is dead) has ORU going winless in 9 of their D-1 non-conference games, with every game a blowout (not sure why home games with TU and FGCU are not included).

11-06   at  Missouri St. Bears   0-0 (0-0) 148  Scouting 60-77  L
11-11   at  TCU Horned Frogs   0-0 (0-0) 25  Scouting 57-90  L
11-15   at  BYU Cougars   0-0 (0-0) 75  Scouting 60-84  L
11-23   at  Northern Illinois Huskies   0-0 (0-0) 239  Scouting 65-78  L
11-24   at  Oakland Golden Grizzlies   0-0 (0-0) 166  Scouting 71-87  L
12-02   at  SMU Mustangs   0-0 (0-0) 123  Scouting 54-83  L
12-07   at  Missouri Tigers   0-0 (0-0) 56  Scouting 50-87  L
12-15   at  Richmond Spiders   0-0 (0-0) 205  Scouting 70-82  L
12-19   at  Wichita St. Shockers   0-0 (0-0) 24  Scouting 54-90  L

http://www.realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_Oral_Roberts_Golden_Eagles.html

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Dr. Cornelius
49 minutes ago, Old Titan said:

More sobering prognostications:  RealtimeRPI.com (who really needs to change their name now that RPI is dead) has ORU going winless in 9 of their D-1 non-conference games, with every game a blowout (not sure why home games with TU and FGCU are not included).

11-06   at  Missouri St. Bears   0-0 (0-0) 148  Scouting 60-77  L
11-11   at  TCU Horned Frogs   0-0 (0-0) 25  Scouting 57-90  L
11-15   at  BYU Cougars   0-0 (0-0) 75  Scouting 60-84  L
11-23   at  Northern Illinois Huskies   0-0 (0-0) 239  Scouting 65-78  L
11-24   at  Oakland Golden Grizzlies   0-0 (0-0) 166  Scouting 71-87  L
12-02   at  SMU Mustangs   0-0 (0-0) 123  Scouting 54-83  L
12-07   at  Missouri Tigers   0-0 (0-0) 56  Scouting 50-87  L
12-15   at  Richmond Spiders   0-0 (0-0) 205  Scouting 70-82  L
12-19   at  Wichita St. Shockers   0-0 (0-0) 24  Scouting 54-90  L

http://www.realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_Oral_Roberts_Golden_Eagles.html

I don't doubt ORU might get blown out by TCU and BYU... but Richmond (  12-20 ), Northern Illinois ( 13-19), & Oakland? I would be really surprised if all those games aren't fairly close.

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ORUParentLurker

Predictions are supposed to be some blend of what happened last year + who left + who came back + who was added.

It looks to me like we brought back four solid starters including one all league talent and added 8 new players.  Middle of the pack is fair but I honestly expect better if Mills is the coach we hope he is.

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theeagleman5

TheEagleman has been silent because I really don't know what to expect from this ORU team.....however, it seems that we have added some decent new players and it's just impossible to say how this season will unfold....the schedule isn't easy but it's not as daunting as it was in early 2017 when ORU was flying all over the country in every time zone....I think a few of these games are winnable if the new kids can contribute something....I have to agree with Lurker that Coach Mills seems to know what he is doing.....so let's see how things go....not gonna pay much attention to these dire predictions from people who have no idea what kind of players we have.....:tb-white:

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titansforever

Regardless of how good this team turns out to be, I was looking forward to this season...until I was told I need surgery that will probably keep me from attending any November games. Although I'm hoping I'll be well enough to catch a few before the end of the month. I appreciate all prayers for a speedy recovery. I'm not "the Gipper," but they better win some for me.

Go, Golden Eagles! 

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ORUTerry

Sorry to hear about your surgery; we will certainly pray for a quick recovery/healing. Let’s hope the team can bring you some cheer to speed the process along. 

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titansforever

Thanks, ORUTerry!

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Old Titan

I took-in about thirty minutes of scrimmage yesterday in the practice gym at the Mabee Center.

I wish I had encouraging news, particularly about the freshmen.

Unfortunately, I do not.

Couple of bright spots:  Jurgens, the freshman 2-guard from Estonia, has a nice motor and plays older than he looks.  Resembles Grayson Allen of Duke/Utah Jazz; trying not to hold that against him.

Also, Smith, the 6-10 grad transfer from Grand Canyon, is pretty active and has some spring to him.  Carries himself like a man; might be a starter in the post in my book.

That's about it, though - hope I just caught them all on an off day...  😟

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ORUParentLurker

I heard it was rough as well.  UTA plays some good pressure and we didn't handle it well.  The only solace is it's a scrimmage.. AND I heard our main returners didn't play much.  I wasn't there so I can't say for sure.

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Old Titan
6 hours ago, ORUParentLurker said:

I heard it was rough as well.  UTA plays some good pressure and we didn't handle it well.  The only solace is it's a scrimmage.. AND I heard our main returners didn't play much.  I wasn't there so I can't say for sure.

Neither was I. 

What I watched late Wednesday afternoon was an intrasquad scrimmage at the end of practice. 

But, yeah, I heard the private scrimmage vs. UTA was pretty ugly as well. 

They play Arkansas-Little Rock this weekend in Fort Smith.

Big Chris Miller was conspicuously absent Wednesday; anyone know his status?

 

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Dr. Cornelius
21 hours ago, Old Titan said:

I took-in about thirty minutes of scrimmage yesterday in the practice gym at the Mabee Center.

I wish I had encouraging news, particularly about the freshmen.

Unfortunately, I do not.

Couple of bright spots:  Jurgens, the freshman 2-guard from Estonia, has a nice motor and plays older than he looks.  Resembles Grayson Allen of Duke/Utah Jazz; trying not to hold that against him.

Also, Smith, the 6-10 grad transfer from Grand Canyon, is pretty active and has some spring to him.  Carries himself like a man; might be a starter in the post in my book.

That's about it, though - hope I just caught them all on an off day...  😟

From the little I have seen I think we will be improved. A lot of new pieces though so it could take a while to get settled in.

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theeagleman5

D.J. Weaver is supposed to be our most talented recruit....he doesn't look very good???....😮

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ORUTerry

Freshmen are typically going to be inconsistent and will need time to adjust to D-1 basketball....

 

 

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