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Dr. Cornelius

I would have thought Javan would get better offers than UMASS!

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#1ORUFAN
1 hour ago, Dr. Cornelius said:

I would have thought Javan would get better offers than UMASS!

Maybe he just wanted out!

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ORUIllini
39 minutes ago, #1ORUFAN said:

Maybe he just wanted out!

Mills will get the right people in the right seats on his bus.

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theeagleman5

Transferring from ORU to UMASS?....not a that huge upgrade, Javan.....you would start and play 30-35 minutes a game here.....but I guess that there are good reasons.....:rolleyes:

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#1ORUFAN

Maybe ORU2017grad was on to something!

 

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ORUParentLurker

I think someone else in Javans family is making the decisions and it's all about making the pros.  They are looking to upgrade conferences. I heard he's got offers from Nevada and LSU.  A few others.  Yes, the A10 is considered an upgrade, it is a multi bid league.

 

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ORUALUMNUS99
5 hours ago, ORUParentLurker said:

I think someone else in Javans family is making the decisions and it's all about making the pros.  They are looking to upgrade conferences. I heard he's got offers from Nevada and LSU.  A few others.  Yes, the A10 is considered an upgrade, it is a multi bid league.

 

Facilities, money, and money all make UMass a very interesting option. Although we may have had the same record as UMass the way the men's team is living, traveling and probably eating are a night and day difference if we compare the two schools. Personally id be more interested in Nevada since LSU has two five star bigs coming In this next year. 

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ORUParentLurker

Yeah LSU has been a disaster for years with terrible coaching.  UMass cares about basketball and Nevada currently cares since they have a great coach.  Travel from Amherst, MA or Reno, NV is no joke though.  Planes, trains, etc...

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Dr. Cornelius

The A10 is better conference but UMass has only finished in the top 5 once in the past 10 years. 

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ORUalum
20 hours ago, ORUParentLurker said:

I think someone else in Javans family is making the decisions and it's all about making the pros.  They are looking to upgrade conferences. I heard he's got offers from Nevada and LSU.  A few others.  Yes, the A10 is considered an upgrade, it is a multi bid league.

 

Reading some articles about the situations at UMass and Nevada, it sounds like scholarships remaining are tight and Iowa State has not even offered.  One article said that Javan would be the third of four options for a big man spot open at Nevada where he visited this weekend.

 

Having said that, any chance he returns to ORU or have Javan and the ORU coaches completely moved on?

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vcboy2000

If he didn't get an offer anywhere else and asked to come back, I'm sure the coaches would welcome him back with open arms. 

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ORUParentLurker

I would be shocked if they didnt. Javan is considered a perfect fit based on the Intel I have.  I give that a very slim chance though.

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ORUalum

so much for my hoping that Javan might return if he could not find the right fit.......sound like the P5 interest is picking up for him

 

why do I have a feeling we are going to see a repeat of this next year with Eman?

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ORUParentLurker

Graduates are a threat to leave for everyone.  So yeah, if Eman is set to graduate in three years then I almost expect it.  I'm seeing kids all over the country leaving very good situations.  The only way I can explain it is they just want to try something different.

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ORUJason

Javan would get 35+ minutes a game and every opportunity to maximize his stats and Summit League accolades at ORU.  At LSU or Clemson, at best he would be a 6th or 7th man off the bench and in a dogfight with other talented players for playing time.  To me this does not make sense.

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ORUParentLurker
5 hours ago, ORUJason said:

Javan would get 35+ minutes a game and every opportunity to maximize his stats and Summit League accolades at ORU.  At LSU or Clemson, at best he would be a 6th or 7th man off the bench and in a dogfight with other talented players for playing time.  To me this does not make sense.

Preachin to the choir brother.

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#1ORUFAN
10 hours ago, ORUJason said:

Javan would get 35+ minutes a game and every opportunity to maximize his stats and Summit League accolades at ORU.  At LSU or Clemson, at best he would be a 6th or 7th man off the bench and in a dogfight with other talented players for playing time.  To me this does not make sense.

Something had to be wrong or going badly for a player like Javan to make this type of decision. It’s like saying things were so bad here I would rather be 6th or 7th of the bench somewhere else. 

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ORUalum

Nevada may be out, but sounds like UMass is very interested in Javan.  As mentioned above LSU would be as a back up to a couple 5 star post recruits....  (interesting to note that Wade at LSU is the same guy that brought in Billbury from ORU as a grad transfer at VCU.........that ended up working out quite well for him)

 

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There’s only one more addition Wade needs to have what might be a great team – that’s one more quality big man to complete the rotation between Bigby-Williams and Reid, so Williams doesn’t have to be thrown in as an undersized post player and can be developed as a small forward, which is what he’ll be in the NBA.

So naturally, Wade has a 6-10, 230-pound center from Oral Roberts named Javan White coming in for a visit this weekend. White averaged 10 points and nine rebounds a game this past year, and he’s a graduate transfer with two years remaining. What he offers is a guy who will give LSU defense and rebounding off the bench this year, then potentially a bellcow in the paint for 2019-20 once Bigby-Williams and Reid have moved on.

 

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EagleManiac

I'm a little surprised to see the shock on here that Javan wanted to go. Obviously, he seemed like the perfect fit for ORU, so I'm very disappointed as well. BUT, ORU MBB is a floundering program that is middle to bottom of a mediocre conference. Our students don't care, and we are now thankful to get 2,000 butts in our 10,575 seat stadium. He is no longer being coached by the staff that recruited him, and there are again significant changes in the staff this year. What guy wouldn't want to go try out a state university that has dedicated fans and a real shot to make a run at the dance. We all saw how the decision to stay worked out for Albert.

Unfortunately, I think we can expect to see our best players continue to go elsewhere until something changes. The problem is figuring out how to change it. I'm optimistic that Coach Mills will get us pointed in the right direction, but it will take time.

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ORUParentLurker

The grass is always greener, don't yall know that?  Seriously, this shouldn't be all that shocking.  When a kid has options, even when the one for staying is still pretty good he is going to be curious about the others.  It may not be a smart decision but it happens all the time.  Grad transfers are leaving good situations all over the country. 

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Dr. Cornelius
1 hour ago, EagleManiac said:

 I'm optimistic that Coach Mills will get us pointed in the right direction, but it will take time.

Winning cures an awful lot

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#1ORUFAN

We all saw how the decision to stay worked out for Albert.

Couldn't have said it better. 

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ORUParentLurker
1 hour ago, #1ORUFAN said:

We all saw how the decision to stay worked out for Albert.

Couldn't have said it better. 

I'm curious what this statement means since I've read it here several times. What I saw this year was a new staff who strated the year trying to force feed the ball to Owens.  They asked him to play defense and rebound.  As the year progressed he proved to be unreliable on both ends.  He ended his career as a 6'9" big bodied guy with long arms and only one career double-double.  

Does anyone really think a different program would have put him on the floor with that kind of "effort"?  Albert is a great kid but he doesn't love to play.  If you want to blame Mills for Owens lack of passion so be it.

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EagleManiac
4 hours ago, Dr. Cornelius said:

Winning cures an awful lot

Agreed. I think if we had a 20 win campaign Javan would probably be staying. 

 

21 minutes ago, ORUParentLurker said:

Does anyone really think a different program would have put him on the floor with that kind of "effort"?  Albert is a great kid but he doesn't love to play.  If you want to blame Mills for Owens lack of passion so be it.

I don’t blame Mills at all for benching him. I think it was the right move. But the point still stands. It had to have been a TERRIBLY frustrating year for Albert. He went from the star of the show, to sitting out entire games. All at the hands of some coach that he didn’t come to ORU to play for. This year was FULL of growing pains, and I think Albert experienced the worst of them. In his case, I’ll bet he wishes he had gone elsewhere. 

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#1ORUFAN

Albert was benched for 15 games and still played more minutes than the guy who started in front of him. Then out of the blue he start the let 5 games.

Im just saying. 

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