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Final score....NDSU 8. SDSU 2...so tomorrow afternoon it's ORU vs. the Bison....hopefully Ausua will put them away peacefully.....:eagles:

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TrueBlue82

It is a common practice in baseball tournaments for the home team to be determined by comparing the opponents' prior tourney games to balance the home and visitors over the course of the tournament.  Since SDSU had been the visitors in game one, and ORU the home team in game two, SDSU became the home team for our matchup.  As NDSU has been home team in two games, and visitors once - and ORU has one of each - ORU should be the home team in the championship game.  If NDSU forces the "if necessary" game, the Bison will be the home team in that game.

The NCAA regionals follow a similar format.

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theeagleman5

I hear ya but thats just a dumb way to do it.....so what good is winning all those games and earning a higher seed? As the #1 seed we have earned the right to be the home  team in every game....:geek:

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ORUJason

I found the rules relating to the "home team" designation, and it is basically exactly what TrueBlue82 mentioned.  As long as the team that comes in 1st place in the previous season keeps being allowed to host the following year's postseason tournament, I honestly do not care if this "home team" designation stays as it is.  It seems to allow all the teams in the tournament to feel like they are being treated fairly even though they are effectively playing road games at ORU every year during the Summit League Tournament.

 

Section 16. Home Team

The home team for the first round of the championship will be the higher-seeded team. In subsequent games, the home team shall

be determined according to the following formula:

1. The Championship Manager shall designate as home team the institution that has been home team the fewer times in the

championship.

2. If two teams have been home team an equal number of times but visiting team an unequal number of times, the team that

has been the visitor more often shall be designated as home team.

3. If the two teams are equal in the number of times that they have been home and visitors, the Championship Manager shall

observe the following procedures in order:

a. The team that was visitor in its preceding game shall be the home team, unless both teams were visitors in their

preceding games.

b. If the two teams have met previously in the championship, the visitor in the previous game shall be the home team in

the game in question.

c. If the above procedures do not resolve the matter, the home team shall be the higher seed. (Amended June 2014)

 

https://cbua.arbitersports.com/Groups/103681/Library/files/summit_15-16.pdf
 

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ORUJason

While looking through the Summit League Baseball Tournament rules, I found this interesting nugget.  Two days of rain would lead to a single elimination tournament, if the first 2 days are played, but the rest of the tournament is rained out, then the 2-0 team would move on, and if rain cancelled the whole tournament, the #1 seed would move on.  It makes sense, and is interesting.

 

If rain cancels two consecutive days of the competition a single-elimination tournament will be played.

G. If rain cancels the championship game the game will be postponed until weather permits the game to be played.

H. If rain prevents the completion of the championship game prior to the date and time when the NCAA requires notification for

selection to the NCAA tournament the following procedure will determine the automatic qualifier:

1. The team with the fewest tournament losses,

2. If both teams have the same number of losses, the team with the best head-to-head tournament record,

3. If the teams have split in their tournament games, or have not yet played in the tournament, the team that was the higher

pre-tournament seed.

I. If the entire championship is cancelled, the regular season champion or the number one tournament seed (in the event of a

regular season tie) shall advance to the NCAA Championship. (Adopted June 2009)

 

https://cbua.arbitersports.com/Groups/103681/Library/files/summit_15-16.pdf

 

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EagleManiac

Thanks for the explanation 82 and Jason. I've always wondered how they determined who played as the home team.

 I agree with you Eagleman. Unfortunately, in American sports the regular season has almost no meaning. The end of season tournament is all that matters. Any opportunity to make regular season games more relevant and meaningful should be taken. 

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ORUalum

Great outing from Ausua!!!   :clap::clap::tb-blue::clap::clap:

 

 

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ORU82

Way to go Golden Eagles!

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theeagleman5

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!.  7-0 complete game by Miguel Ausua a 5 hitter...a 5 run 6th put the game away. 42-14 and ORU awaits the pairings on Monday...:eagles:

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ManiacAlum

Miguel Ausua with "the Maddux" masterpiece- CG shutout on only 85 pitches. Just an incredible performance.

He faced just 2 batters over the minimum thanks to 3 ORU double plays.

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ORUJason

That was a really fun game today.  Ausua was in complete control.  He received the MVP award for the Summit League Tournament.

Our pitching staff will be well rested for the regional.

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ORUTerry

He wasn't voted first team all conference.... but could win the Johnny Bench Award for the nation's outstanding catcher.

 

 

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EagleManiac

How likely is it that a guy like him goes pro early? Obviously he's one of the top prospects at catcher. Any chance he's lured away from us? 

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ORUTerry

Have to think he is gone.... he's regarded as one of the top catching prospects. 

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ManiacAlum

I think most of the mock drafts have Whatley going as high as the 3rd round (#77 overall):

Baseball America Top 100 MLB Draft Prospects

That's pretty high for a catcher. I would imagine that immediately makes him one of the top prospects in whichever organization he ends up with.

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MrsSmith

That draft list is old.  I've heard that Whatley will go in the first 2 rounds.  No one thinks he will be back to ORU next year.

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theeagleman5

Yeah...Whatley is gone....ORU catcher is probably a late 2nd early 3rd round selection....:oru-logo:

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Bogus Smith

MLB Properties came to one of the late season games to video Matt.  They said that they go out and video those players that are most likely to be drafted in the top three rounds and distribute the video out to all MLB teams so that they will have the clips available on draft day.  Matt will make it to The Show one day if he can get a consistent bat; otherwise, he will be a minor league journeyman.  With Matt's work ethic, my money is on Matt showing up on a MLB roster some day.

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College hitters have a way of climbing up draft boards, with established track records against a baseline of talent that can give a perception of safety. Especially if they get hot or show signs of breaking out in the run-up to the draft(see J.B. Woodman). Below are some players who aren't ranked as consensus second rounders, but could still go there or be options later on:

  • Matt Whatley, C, Oral Roberts: One of the stronger defensive catchers, and a track record of hitting in a mid-major conference, but struggled last summer with wood bats on the Cape.

I'm curious to see what happens to a few of the other 3 yr players -- Ausua, Snypes, and Hernandez. 

To ORU's depth, they've got the 2016 OK Gatorade player of the year to plug in for Whatley in Cacy Harper who red-shirted this season.

Anyone know if Wommacks will get a med re-shirt and have another yr?

 

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Bogus Smith

Womacks was in the dugout with a "blue shirt" (ORU baseball's version of the red shirt) during the Regionals and did not participate in the Senior Day festivities.  I believe that he will return for the 2018 season.

Also, Nick Rotola is expected to get a medical redshirt and be back for the 2018 season.

Ausua, Snypes and Hernandez may be high round choices, but I think that they would be better served with one more year of college ball.  Hernandez, as a redshirt sophomore, would still have a chance to return to the team in 2019 and doesn't lose the marketability, like the other juniors.  At the end of the day, though, the whole purpose of playing college ball is to play pro ball and they could still take their baseball abilities to the pros this year, regardless of whether they last long there or not.

If these guys decide to go, we have some quality backups in Harrison Smith (3B), Spencer Henson (1B), Trevor McCutheon (1B/UTL) and Alex Schmidt (UTL), as well as recruits to handle the defense, but would still prepfer to have all of our guys back for another run in 2018.

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ORUalum

due to partial scholarships and tuition at ORU, i bet anyone that gets drafted will jump to pro ball instead of returning.

looking at the roster there were a few guys that i thought were seniors that actually have another year of eligibility -- Cummings, Stout, and Varnell

imagine the team ORU will have if even half of these guys return for another year --- Ausua, Stout, Womacks, Snypes, Hernandez, and Cummings

 

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Otis 83

So somehow I missed this.

Whatley is a Bench finalist. So that means some group of experts believes he is one of the best three catchers in ALL OF COLLEGE BASEBALL!!!!

Whatley is a 3rd round draft pick. He's the tenth catcher taken. He's the 6th college catcher taken. So somebody who scouts baseball players for a living thinks he's one of the best catchers among draft eligible players. 

But he gets second team Summit League to some dude from Western Illinois??  That dude is a senior.  If he's so great why wasn't he drafted ahead of Whatley?  Why isn't he a Bench finalist?  What do the boobs that vote for the All Summit League team know that is lost on the Bench Committee and all of Major League Baseball?  They are in the 25th round and Adam McGinnis hasn't been drafted yet.

Nothing against Mr McGinnis.  I'm sure he's a fine young man.  I wish him nothing but the best in life.

WE ARE IN SUCH A BUSH LEAGUE CONFERENCE.  This is so stinking ridiculous.

 

 

 

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theeagleman5

+100 Otis....I thought the same thing when I saw it but for some reason was busy and didn't comment....I checked his stats at the time and the only thing McGinnis had going for him was a better batting average....whoever votes on this in the Summit League are total idiots.....TheEagleman has to believe that the ORU coaching staff and squad had to laugh when this was announced....but it's bizarre......:puke:

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ORUTerry

+1000

This is embarrassing for our conference.

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Old Titan

This is such a glaringly obvious case of the conference office justifying some sort of a "participation trophy" to a league player to avoid an entirely-ORU Summit League First Team that I'm guessing Whatley might even find it funny; or at the very least ironic.

At any rate, Matt remains a 3-time all-conference player for his college career, and he now has 500,000 reasons to close the book on that chapter of his life and launch his professional career.

Here's hoping we get to see him with the Frisco RoughRiders the next summer or two when they swing through Tulsa to play the Drillers.

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