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Yes, to this day we are still "debating" the Fred Price chapel. Every graduate should have gotten a box of laundry detergent as a gift from the speaker. What graduate doesn't need laundry detergent to start off their new life??

Reality is no NBA teams visited Trump in his first term, so any team this time around is already unlikely based on how things have started off. The undisputed leader of the Thunder is Canadian, and teams follow their leader so thats why I said that! What I'm more curious about, is OT's thoughts! You've posted a couple political/sports articles then say you wont get involved! I don't know you but genuinely consider you a wise and insightful individual from afar - you should go ahead and make a burner account, I'd love to hear your thoughts!! .

The CEO of Amway was the speaker at my graduation in 1976....Rich DeVos....lol.....can't remember much of what he said.....

Chapel was good. Even when we had controversial speakers, we were able to discuss the views among ourselves. It gave me a good foundation for determining what I believe and defending it.

I'm just wondering why he's wearing Dustin Hoffman's glasses from "Tootsie".

I transferred to ORU in my sophomore year from Harding University where they had chapel Monday through Friday. Two chapels a week seemed a lot less onerous. I got married after my sophomore year and lived off campus. I was told I was the only student not living in married housing. I received a deferment from attending chapel so that I could work part time at Parker Drilling Company to pay for school. Never attended chapel during my junior or senior years. I suspect very few (any?) people of my vintage can say that.

The ones who were tall.

The Pacers have 2 Canadian players: Andrew Nembhard and Bennedict Mathurin. So, why would they be more to visit the White House?

Old Titan you said the frontline and wing candidates looked obvious. That was somewhat surprising with Y2 Williams still overseas, as he would seem to be an opening game starter. Who looked obvious?

It looks like coach Anderson and her staff have done well in recruiting for this season. According to ORU's summary of the new players, Ari Gordon has accomplished something that no other player has every done: "Throughout her career as a Lady Saint, she saw action in 50 games, starting in 61."

As you said earlier, @theeagleman5, let him without sin cast the first stone. Hypocrite or not, we have all sinned, but it should not keep us from speaking truth into a situation where sin is present. His continued ministry may not have reached the unchurched and backslidden after his moral failure(s), but his words will still Truth and probably kept others from going into (or continuing) their sinful nature and turned from their wicked ways. Jimmy is in the presence of God now and he will judge him and his works while on this planet. For us, it is in our best interest to learn from him - both in word and deed - and continue to prepare a way for our Savior's second coming. Teaching, preaching, and discipling those with ears to hear. #UseOurTimeWiselyWhileWeCan

The means by minimizing defections is building a culture. Players will stay if they are enjoying the experience and this coaching staff is showing that they care for the players and that they are "yelling at them" to develop their skills and teamwork, not just a means of communication. Just like any job you may work after college, many employees will stay at a place if they enjoy the culture and like/trust their boss. Money talks and, if the difference in compensation is significant (i.e., a mid-major team v. a P4 program like Texas), the player is at a minimum going to go into the portal to test the market. However, some will stay for the same compensation, or a little bump, if they feel comfortable in the coach's system and demeanor.

Thanks for the synopsis OT. The reality of the transfer portal is that teams are no longer building for the future because next year’s roster might be completely different. As a result, I think the NCAA needs to increase the allowable number of practices leading up to the season because in reality this current season is all that matters.

Looks like the new class is all in! https://oruathletics.com/news/2025/6/27/womens-basketball-oruwbb-completes-2025-recruiting-class.aspx

I'm traditionally hesitant to share specific details from summer workouts, but after observing 30 minutes or so of scrimmage time this week, I feel fairly comfortable posting the following observations without betraying any confidences: The entire roster participated, with the notable exception of Yuto Yamanouchi-Williams, who will arrive stateside next week. The tone was a complete 180º from a similar practice I suffered through last summer around this same time. The energy level of the youthful staff permeates everything, and the vibe of the team is infectious. I walked away from last year's death-march session deflated and concerned. This time around, I felt uplifted if by nothing more than the positive enthusiasm of all the participants. In contrast to last year's roster, what this team perhaps lacks in athleticism and height is contrasted by their basketball IQ, crispness, and effort. I was encouraged by the improvement in the little things from last year such as passing, footwork, on-ball defending, shooting form, and communication. Last year's team rarely talked (particularly on defense); this group is downright chatty on the floor and during timeouts. The word I kept finding myself coming back to was "maturity". The frontline and wing candidates for playing time look obvious; the backcourt appears more muddled. Gonna be interesting to see who emerges as the quarterback(s) on this roster. Don't be surprised if a dark horse or two is handed the keys to the car, at least on occasion. Nobody looks like they're going to warrant 35+ minutes a game for a change! I'm not sure if this bunch can win .500 of their games, considering they've never played together before and who knows what the majority of their opponents will throw out there this year, but frankly I think I can live with them struggling if that ends up being the case. They just seem incredibly likeable, both on the floor and along the sideline, and I think they will be very easy for ORU fans to pull for this season.

At this time, I would stick with the Summit League. But, when the XDSU's and St. Thomas bolt the Summit (and trust me, that's a "when" and not an "if" proposition) it's comforting to consider ORU has a sensible (albeit far-flung) geographic alternative.

In this age of conference realignment, maybe moving conferences is the safe move. Travel costs for these conferences would be about the same, Summit teams average ~669 miles from ORU, while UAC schools are ~688 if I’ve done my math right. Baseball would probably be more competitive in the UAC, and recruiting for all sports would probably take a step up because your team’s footprint would be in better recruiting states like Texas, Tennessee, Arkansas, etc. FWIW, I would be thrilled to get away from the Dakota driven front offices of the Summit League, and selfishly, I’d get to see ORU basketball and baseball a few times a year without driving 11 hours to Tulsa!

Swaggart photo should be next to the word hypocrite in the dictionary.....TheEagleman isn't a perfect man himself but this guy was a disgrace to the faith.....but not the only tele-evangelist to fall from grace back in the late 20th century....he railed against promiscuity, homosexuality and all that stuff...but look at the life he led and the legacy he left.....very very sad....found this below in an op-ed piece.....wonder how RR's final obit will read...... Born in 1934 and ordained in 1961 by the Assemblies of God, Swaggart became a prolific preacher and evangelist with a bombastic preaching persona, amassing a worldwide following through his television ministry and his evangelistic appearances. He was a catalyst for the growth of Pentecostalism in Latin America as well as Africa. At its peak, his ministry amassed over $100 million per year. It would all crumble, in part because of Swaggart’s hypocrisy. After Swaggart publicly called out other evangelical leaders he accused of grievous sin, a pastor who said Swaggart falsely accused him provided photographic evidence of Swaggart with a prostitute. “I have sinned against you,” Swaggart said in a tearful apology as he confessed to his congregation. “I beg you to forgive me.” That scandal was the beginning of a diminished ministry for Swaggart. The Assemblies of God ordered him to refrain from preaching for a year and to spend two years in rehabilitation. Swaggart, fearful of losing his ministry, came back to the pulpit sooner, and his denomination defrocked him. Also, he had to pay to settle with the pastor who said Swaggart falsely accused him. On top of that, in 1991, police in California pulled him over for traffic violations, and the woman in the car with him later identified herself as a prostitute he had picked up for sex .

The 51st state/"we dont really need you" rhetoric out of nowhere has a lot of Canadians feeling very disrespected. I struggle to see Shai/Dort going and I think the team may follow their lead? If the Pacers won I think it would be more likely...but if I was a "will they visit the White House" betting man I'd feel comfortable putting a decent amount on "no". But who knows??

The Summit seems more stable to me.

I think it would be a good move for travel. Taking a road trip to Jacksonville in February would be a lot more pleasant than driving to Brookings. As far as competition goes, I don’t know if the future of the Summit is very bright. If the Dakotas end up being hindered by football (because of the recent settlement) then the Summit begins to look pretty bad, with the exception of St. Thomas. I think if the UAC were interested in ORU, it would be worth considering.

I’m of the opinion that anyone invited to the White House by the President should always go if at all possible, regardless of who the president is. I like Trump, but can honestly say that if Harris were president and invited me to the White House, I would go. So it’s ridiculous to me that it’s even a question whether a team would go to the White House if invited. For the Thunder, having two Canadians on the team might complicate things. However, the Thunder like to stay out of politics generally and it seems like the players are kept in check when it comes to speaking out about their political views. So, I think if given an invite they would accept, because that’s really the least controversial move (especially among the fans in Oklahoma, where all 77 counties voted for Trump).

Lateral move at best, more likely a step backwards.

Here's a corker just perfect for the "Free For All" forum in the dog days of summer: In the wake of their NBA championship, will the Oklahoma City Thunder get an invite to visit the White House? Will they accept? Here's a provocative piece from the New York Times providing background and perspective on what has mutated from a traditional honor to a political football: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/25/opinion/oklahoma-city-thunder-trump.htm EDITOR'S NOTE: you kids play nice; I'm not getting involved! LOL

The other side of this coin: Does the new United Athletic Conference have any interest in ORU as a member? Does ORU have any interest in becoming a member of the new UAC? Tulsa, OK would be supremely located geographically for the UAC, and among the largest metropolitan markets. No insider info on this query; just askin'...