tmh8286 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 You are welcome. Thought I would also share this, it has been a very tough year on the Vandrovecs (see link to video below) and he is a class guy doing a very good job. They are always in my prayers. http://www.keloland.com/videoarchive/index.cfm?VideoFile=052211eye Thanks for posting that, 89rabbit. If I remember right, I think Terry also lost a baby a couple years ago. He's certainly had to deal with tragedies in his life that none of us want to go through. When our only connection with a person is through sports we tend to view that person through a competitive light. In reality, our lives are a lot more complex than that. My impression of Terry Vandrovec is that he's a good guy, and we could be great friends - if he was an ORU fan!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Titan Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 The last two times the tournament was on the road (at Centenary and at Western Illinois), very focused ORU teams ROMPED. Overall, I really don't think there is that much difference between SDSU and ORU this year - which in all honesty is an indictment of the Golden Eagles, in relation to past ORU teams. What we DO have in our favor this week is a lack of really good left-handed pitching on the roster of the three other teams in the field. ORU has been tearing it up the past month against right-handers, and that's pretty much all they'll see in Sioux Falls. If we can just get some decent starting pitching from someone other than Gonzalez, plus some steady defensive play, I really think our relievers and hitting will put us over the top for a 14th straight title. P.S. For what it's worth, we didn't "share" anything with SDSU last year. Since the Summit League conducts a conference championship tournament, neither the conference nor the NCAA recognizes a "regular season champion", or "co-champion", or whatever. The winner of the TOURNAMENT is the "champion" for the year, and the only thing that finishing at the top of the regular season standings means is that your team gets the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament. Still, why do I suspect there's some sort of trophy or plaque from Brookings Engravings displayed prominently in the SDSU "Moral Victory Trophy Case", touting the Jackrabbits as "2010 Summit League Baseball Regular Season Champions"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORUJason Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Rabbit - I'm not sure why there is a discrepancy between the RPIs that you listed and the RPIs at Warrennolan.com, but they list the RPIs as: ORU - 108 SDSU - 163 Western Illinois - 251 NDSU - 253 Even with the schools that have recently dropped baseball, there are still 300 D-1 baseball programs. Based on our RPI, I assume ORU would be a 4-seed in a regional (with only a small chance of a 3-seed) if we are fortunate enough to win the Summit League tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89rabbit Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 The last two times the tournament was on the road (at Centenary and at Western Illinois), very focused ORU teams ROMPED. Overall, I really don't think there is that much difference between SDSU and ORU this year - which in all honesty is an indictment of the Golden Eagles, in relation to past ORU teams. What we DO have in our favor this week is a lack of really good left-handed pitching on the roster of the three other teams in the field. ORU has been tearing it up the past month against right-handers, and that's pretty much all they'll see in Sioux Falls. If we can just get some decent starting pitching from someone other than Gonzalez, plus some steady defensive play, I really think our relievers and hitting will put us over the top for a 14th straight title. P.S. For what it's worth, we didn't "share" anything with SDSU last year. Since the Summit League conducts a conference championship tournament, neither the conference nor the NCAA recognizes a "regular season champion", or "co-champion", or whatever. The winner of the TOURNAMENT is the "champion" for the year, and the only thing that finishing at the top of the regular season standings means is that your team gets the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament. Still, why do I suspect there's some sort of trophy or plaque from Brookings Engravings displayed prominently in the SDSU "Moral Victory Trophy Case", touting the Jackrabbits as "2010 Summit League Baseball Regular Season Champions"? Not your best work, but I appreciate the effort that you put into your rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmh8286 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Rabbit - I'm not sure why there is a discrepancy between the RPIs that you listed and the RPIs at Warrennolan.com, but they list the RPIs as: ORU - 108 SDSU - 163 Western Illinois - 251 NDSU - 253 Even with the schools that have recently dropped baseball, there are still 300 D-1 baseball programs. Based on our RPI, I assume ORU would be a 4-seed in a regional (with only a small chance of a 3-seed) if we are fortunate enough to win the Summit League tournament. RPIs at THIS MOMENT on BoydsWorld.com: Oral Roberts - 100 South Dakota State - 160 Western Illinios - 251 North Dakota State - 253 FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89rabbit Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 RPIs at THIS MOMENT on BoydsWorld.com: Oral Roberts - 100 South Dakota State - 160 Western Illinios - 251 North Dakota State - 253 FWIW. Bottom line, and the point I was making, neither of us should need our #1 pitcher tomorrow to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmh8286 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Bottom line, and the point I was making, neither of us should need our #1 pitcher tomorrow to win. No prob, 89rabbit - I was just pointing out the RPI difference on Boyd's World, since Jason had used Warren Nolan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89rabbit Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 No prob, 89rabbit - I was just pointing out the RPI difference on Boyd's World, since Jason had used Warren Nolan. Oh yea, totally get it. That last post was really for ORUJason. Different sources on different days give you different results. The only thing that doesn't change is that the #1 & #2 seeds are much better on paper then the #3 & #4 seeds. Sorry my last post wasn't very clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89rabbit Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 A quick story from the Argus Leader, a Q & A with Jackrabbit Head Coach Ritchie Price http://www.argusleader.com/article/20110525/SPORTS0202/105250324/Q-SDSU-baseball-coach-Ritchie-Price?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Sports|s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeagleman5 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 TheEagleman could see a scenerio where I wouldn't use Gonzo until Game 3.....If ORU beats WIU and NDSU should upset SDSU....TheEagleman wouldn't waste Gonzalez against the Bison....I'd go with Johnson or Guest and save our "Ace" for the likely meeting in Game 3 with SDSU which would be for the clincher.....even if for some reason we lost the second game to NDSU...we would still have the advantage with Gonzo going in that elimination game late Saturday....it makes sense not to throw Gonzalez until we absolutely have to.....especially since our #2 and #3 guys are not too bad....am I right?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORUJason Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 TheEagleman could see a scenerio where I wouldn't use Gonzo until Game 3.....If ORU beats WIU and NDSU should upset SDSU....TheEagleman wouldn't waste Gonzalez against the Bison....I'd go with Johnson or Guest and save our "Ace" for the likely meeting in Game 3 with SDSU which would be for the clincher.....even if for some reason we lost the second game to NDSU...we would still have the advantage with Gonzo going in that elimination game late Saturday....it makes sense not to throw Gonzalez until we absolutely have to.....especially since our #2 and #3 guys are not too bad....am I right?.... If you win the 1st game and NDSU upsets SDSU, then I would still throw Gonzalez against NDSU to ensure that you get that 2nd win and are in the driver's seat. By the time you would play SDSU (if they made it through the loser's bracket) they would have to beat you twice. Remember each of these teams has beat us once and Western beat us twice (although I don't really count the rain/darkness-shortened game in which we were leading when the game was called as a loss). So we can't afford to look past anyone. If you don't start Gonzalez in the 1st game it is a risk even against Western Illinois. I trust Rob Walton's choices since he is way closer to the situation than I am. The key is somehow doing what it takes to win those first two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeagleman5 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Sorry, Bro...I trust TheEagleman more than Walton....this is the same guy who let Sullivan throw like 187 pitches a few years ago..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89rabbit Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Here is some media coverage for you. Sioux Falls Argus Leader: http://www.argusleader.com/article/20110526/SPORTS0202/105260324/SDSU-baseball-team-has-home-field-pressure?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports Mitchell Daily Republic: http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/event/article/id/53056/ KELO TV: http://www.keloland.com/videoarchive/index.cfm?VideoFile=052511summit KSFY TV: http://www.ksfy.com/story/14723697/six-jacks-named-to-all-league-team Tulsa World: http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/ORU/article.aspx?subjectid=95&articleid=20110526_95_B1_ULNSik471483 Fargo Forum: http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/321154/group/Sports/ McDonough County Voice (WIU): http://www.mcdonoughvoice.com/sports/x227109670/Leatherneck-baseball-team-returns-to-postseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmh8286 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks, 89rabbit! Very thorough list. I'm looking forward to the games getting started today - ORU plays at 2:00 PM, for those that don't already know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORUalum Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 "Top talent: SDSU ace Blake Treinen - who will start tonight " i'm surprised SDSU is pitching treinen in the first round...once again TMH is proven right and why he's the smartest guy on the message board. interesting article by terry v that the pressure is actually on SDSU --- at home, senior laden team, might be best chance for awhile to end the ORU streak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmh8286 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 "Top talent: SDSU ace Blake Treinen - who will start tonight " i'm surprised SDSU is pitching treinen in the first round...once again TMH is proven right and why he's the smartest guy on the message board. interesting article by terry v that the pressure is actually on SDSU --- at home, senior laden team, might be best chance for awhile to end the ORU streak. Oh, PUULLEASE!!! Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. I get things WRONG far more often than I get them RIGHT!! Even so, I appreciate the thought! Thanks!! Not only is there pressure on SDSU for the reasons listed, but I think up until a couple weeks ago they really felt like they had championship in the bag. The losses at Tulsa put a little doubt in their minds, and the loss in the final game of the season to IPFW shook their world. The tournament gives them an opportunity for some vindication. ORU SEEMS to be playing their best ball of the season, just at the critical time. Hopefully they roll into Sioux Falls and dominate. We'll find out if they will starting in a few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89rabbit Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Here is a little more from TV: http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckPersona&U=69144e41448a46579a2772abd68f472c&plckUserId=69144e41448a46579a2772abd68f472c&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a69144e41448a46579a2772abd68f472cPost%3a5aa3af05-7ad8-4bf3-a1ed-0248632413af Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker228 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 ORU has scored nearly 20 runs in the last two games against the 'Jacks ace. No doubt Coach Price has decided to go with someone else in an anticipated rematch with ORU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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