Ting Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Some Conner articles for those of us that can't wait to see the new team playing together... When can the transfers get on campus and get acclimated with the team? https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/vanover-at-sweet-16 - Musselman went away from Connor because he wanted to speed up pace. Sounds like Eli and Conner can share the floor together on offense easily with Conner as that stretch 4, but how would they do together on defense? Sounds like Conner can't guard the perimeter, but can provide some rim protection down low. https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/getting-body-right-arkansas-razorbacks-connor-vanover-working-to-add-weight - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleManiac Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 25 minutes ago, Ting said: Some Conner articles for those of us that can't wait to see the new team playing together... When can the transfers get on campus and get acclimated with the team? https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/vanover-at-sweet-16 - Musselman went away from Connor because he wanted to speed up pace. Sounds like Eli and Conner can share the floor together on offense easily with Conner as that stretch 4, but how would they do together on defense? Sounds like Conner can't guard the perimeter, but can provide some rim protection down low. https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/getting-body-right-arkansas-razorbacks-connor-vanover-working-to-add-weight - I don't see Eli and Vanover being on the floor at the same time together often myself, but we'll see. If they were on the floor together. Eli could be the 5 on offense with Eli playing the 4, and swap spots defensively. Eli is not bad on the perimeter as long as he's not tired. He's got pretty quick feet for a guy of his size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORUTerry Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 I could see us playing a 1-3-1 zone defense with a certain player rotation: Vanover under the basket Williams (6'6" with a 6'11" wingspan) out top Thompson, Weaver, Jurgens, Herron, Lufile, Mwamba (all good length) in the middle... with either Abmas, McBride, Amboree or Phipps in one of those slots 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 37 minutes ago, ORUTerry said: I could see us playing a 1-3-1 zone defense with a certain player rotation: Vanover under the basket Williams (6'6" with a 6'11" wingspan) out top Thompson, Weaver, Jurgens, Herron, Lufile, Mwamba (all good length) in the middle... with either Abmas, McBride, Amboree or Phipps in one of those slots We do have the potential to roll out some "on paper" exceptionally long/length defensive lineups next year dont we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Titan Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, ORUTerry said: I could see us playing a 1-3-1 zone defense with a certain player rotation: Vanover under the basket Williams (6'6" with a 6'11" wingspan) out top Thompson, Weaver, Jurgens, Herron, Lufile, Mwamba (all good length) in the middle... with either Abmas, McBride, Amboree or Phipps in one of those slots The bottom guy on a 1-3-1 must defend from corner-to-corner, with speed and control. And Mills has already shown he loves Herron out top on the ball in full-court prssure situations. Consider this: Williams underneath in the 1-3-1, Vanover in the middle, and Herron out top. Whoever else on the wings. NO ONE in the Summit League is driving down the lane on that line-up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Blue White can't get here fast enough. (although ill much rather see the guys in the fall than currently if we only get 1 preseason look) Coaches are probably able to have some pretty competitive scrimmages this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORUTerry Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 8 minutes ago, Old Titan said: The bottom guy on a 1-3-1 must defend from corner-to-corner, with speed and control. And Mills has already shown he loves Herron out top on the ball in full-court prssure situations. Consider this: Williams underneath in the 1-3-1, Vanover in the middle, and Herron out top. Whoever else on the wings. NO ONE in the Summit League is driving down the lane on that line-up. You're right... I got the guys in the wrong places. Given Mills' experience at Baylor and their use of a zone defense, I have to think we will see a zone defense implemented... at least partially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Titan Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, ORUTerry said: You're right... I got the guys in the wrong places. Given Mills' experience at Baylor and their use of a zone defense, I have to think we will see a zone defense implemented... at least partially. Hey, if you've got ANYONE in the paint who has length and can move his feet, he's basically his own "zone". You can do a lot of stuff around him to disguise your defense, and the bottom line remains: enter the lane at your own risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oruvoice Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 So, does this mean we are going away from the 3-guard and 4-guard lineups? #skeptical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORUJason Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Just think of Vanover as a really tall guard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Can you imagine the defensive problem we will present for other teams if Lufile, Vanover and Max are all on the court at the same time. Actually the guy(s) that might benefit the most from that combination will be Thompson, Jurgens and Weaver because of all the attention those three will command. This should be good. Of course, the $64,000 question is whether Coach Mills will still insist on starting 3-4 guards while letting the big men on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 My summer checklist for Conner: 1. get some weight back on(defend summit bigs), 2. get that 3 ball % back to high 30s% (great pick and pop opportunities with max), 3. work on his entry post passing (for regular back door cuts to max and Lufile- on the double screen for max) recipe for getting back to late March tourney and us watching the games on the big screen in the comfortable new Mabee 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cornelius Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 4 hours ago, Ting said: My summer checklist for Conner: 1. get some weight back on(defend summit bigs), 2. get that 3 ball % back to high 30s% (great pick and pop opportunities with max), 3. work on his entry post passing (for regular back door cuts to max and Lufile- on the double screen for max) recipe for getting back to late March tourney and us watching the games on the big screen in the comfortable new Mabee Agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORob1 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 5/4/2022 at 3:07 PM, Old Titan said: The bottom guy on a 1-3-1 must defend from corner-to-corner, with speed and control. And Mills has already shown he loves Herron out top on the ball in full-court prssure situations. Consider this: Williams underneath in the 1-3-1, Vanover in the middle, and Herron out top. Whoever else on the wings. NO ONE in the Summit League is driving down the lane on that line-up. Is it freakin' basketball season yet?! I can't wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORob1 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 7 hours ago, Ting said: My summer checklist for Conner: 1. get some weight back on(defend summit bigs), 2. get that 3 ball % back to high 30s% (great pick and pop opportunities with max), 3. work on his entry post passing (for regular back door cuts to max and Lufile- on the double screen for max) recipe for getting back to late March tourney and us watching the games on the big screen in the comfortable new Mabee #3. Work on a little skyhook, (ala Kareem Abdul Jabbar) How you gonna stop Max, McBride Lufile AND a Vanover skyhook? ...and good defense, play good defense... Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ORUJason Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Great article about Vanover. Thanks OT for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TrueBlue82 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Not often that you see the phrases 7’3” and forward on the same graphic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cornelius Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 6 minutes ago, TrueBlue82 said: Not often that you see the phrases 7’3” and forward on the same graphic. I noticed that as well. Absolutely NOBODY wants to be a center in today's game. If a 7'3" guy isn't a center then WHO is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Titan Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Here’s hoping “7-foot forward” isn’t just the current terminology for “tall guy who should be mixing it up in the paint but would rather stand outside and jack threes”. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue82 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 48 minutes ago, Old Titan said: Here’s hoping “7-foot forward” isn’t just the current terminology for “tall guy who should be mixing it up in the paint but would rather stand outside and jack threes”. From watching some of Connor's game tape, I think this is an accurate description of his preferred style of play. However, in our offensive game plan, it just might work... if he can MAKE the threes. I remember (sheepishly) that I was very critical of KO after he went 1-for-6 from three in our 2020-21 season opener at Missouri, thinking that he wasn't helping the team or playing to his strengths. As we all now know, his three-point shot-making was a key element in ORU's success throughout the remainder of the season and the magical NCAA tourney run. In fact, after his 1-6 start, KO made 47.8% of his three point attempts. If Connor can do that, I say "Jack 'em up, son!" 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 He kinda has a resemblance to Dirk Nowitzki. We can only hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Henderson Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 At the end of the day, Connor is basically a backup to Lufile. He will probably play about 10-15 minutes per game and give the Eagles say: 6 points, 3 rebounds and one block shot every night. He is 7'3 and 225 pounds, so definitely not a banger inside. If he gets a mismatch (6'4 guard on him), then Connor will post up inside. Otherwise, he will shoot the three (32 percent) and clean up a few misses on the offensive boards. That is his game in a nutshell. ORU will still need Big Maple to be healthy and perform like he did at the end of last year. So, in other words be a double double guy night in and night out. I like Connor and think he will help the team next year, but he is not the complete answer to ORU's problems in the paint. Hopefully Herron can also put on some weight in the offseason and help on the inside next year. It will take a team effort: Lufile, Herron, and Connor to solve the Eagle's inside game woes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeagleman5 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 S....T....I....F....F..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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