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Some Conner articles for those of us that can't wait to see the new team playing together... When can the transfers get on campus and get acclimated with the team? 

 

https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/vanover-at-sweet-16 - Musselman went away from Connor because he wanted to speed up pace. Sounds like Eli and Conner can share the floor together on offense easily with Conner as that stretch 4, but how would they do together on defense? Sounds like Conner can't guard the perimeter, but can provide some rim protection down low.

https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/getting-body-right-arkansas-razorbacks-connor-vanover-working-to-add-weight - 

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25 minutes ago, Ting said:

Some Conner articles for those of us that can't wait to see the new team playing together... When can the transfers get on campus and get acclimated with the team? 

 

https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/vanover-at-sweet-16 - Musselman went away from Connor because he wanted to speed up pace. Sounds like Eli and Conner can share the floor together on offense easily with Conner as that stretch 4, but how would they do together on defense? Sounds like Conner can't guard the perimeter, but can provide some rim protection down low.

https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/hogs-mens-basketball/getting-body-right-arkansas-razorbacks-connor-vanover-working-to-add-weight - 

I don't see Eli and Vanover being on the floor at the same time together often myself, but we'll see. If they were on the floor together. Eli could be the 5 on offense with Eli playing the 4, and swap spots defensively. Eli is not bad on the perimeter as long as he's not tired. He's got pretty quick feet for a guy of his size. 

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I could see us playing a 1-3-1 zone defense with a certain player rotation:

Vanover under the basket

Williams (6'6" with a 6'11" wingspan) out top

Thompson, Weaver, Jurgens, Herron, Lufile, Mwamba (all good length) in the middle... with either Abmas, McBride, Amboree or Phipps in one of those slots

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37 minutes ago, ORUTerry said:

I could see us playing a 1-3-1 zone defense with a certain player rotation:

Vanover under the basket

Williams (6'6" with a 6'11" wingspan) out top

Thompson, Weaver, Jurgens, Herron, Lufile, Mwamba (all good length) in the middle... with either Abmas, McBride, Amboree or Phipps in one of those slots

We do have the potential to roll out some "on paper" exceptionally long/length defensive lineups next year dont we. 

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1 hour ago, ORUTerry said:

I could see us playing a 1-3-1 zone defense with a certain player rotation:

Vanover under the basket

Williams (6'6" with a 6'11" wingspan) out top

Thompson, Weaver, Jurgens, Herron, Lufile, Mwamba (all good length) in the middle... with either Abmas, McBride, Amboree or Phipps in one of those slots

The bottom guy on a 1-3-1 must defend from corner-to-corner, with speed and control.

And Mills has already shown he loves Herron out top on the ball in full-court prssure situations.

Consider this:  Williams underneath in the 1-3-1, Vanover in the middle, and Herron out top.  Whoever else on the wings. 

NO ONE in the Summit League is driving down the lane on that line-up.

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Blue White can't get here fast enough. (although ill much rather see the guys in the fall than currently if we only get 1 preseason look) Coaches are probably able to have some pretty competitive scrimmages this year. 

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8 minutes ago, Old Titan said:

The bottom guy on a 1-3-1 must defend from corner-to-corner, with speed and control.

And Mills has already shown he loves Herron out top on the ball in full-court prssure situations.

Consider this:  Williams underneath in the 1-3-1, Vanover in the middle, and Herron out top.  Whoever else on the wings. 

NO ONE in the Summit League is driving down the lane on that line-up.

You're right... I got the guys in the wrong places. Given Mills' experience at Baylor and their use of a zone defense, I have to think we will see a zone defense implemented... at least partially.

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1 minute ago, ORUTerry said:

You're right... I got the guys in the wrong places. Given Mills' experience at Baylor and their use of a zone defense, I have to think we will see a zone defense implemented... at least partially.

Hey, if you've got ANYONE in the paint who has length and can move his feet, he's basically his own "zone".

You can do a lot of stuff around him to disguise your defense, and the bottom line remains:  enter the lane at your own risk.

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So, does this mean we are going away from the 3-guard and 4-guard lineups? 

#skeptical

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Just think of Vanover as a really tall guard. 😁

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Can you imagine the defensive problem we will present for other teams if Lufile, Vanover and Max are all on the court at the same time. Actually the guy(s) that might benefit  the most from that combination will be Thompson, Jurgens and Weaver because of all the attention those three will command. This should be good. Of course, the $64,000 question is whether Coach Mills will still insist on starting 3-4 guards while letting the big men on the bench.

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My summer checklist for Conner:

1. get some weight back on(defend summit bigs), 2. get that 3 ball % back to high 30s% (great pick and pop opportunities with max), 3. work on his entry post passing (for regular back door cuts to max and Lufile- on the double screen for max) 

recipe for getting back to late March tourney and us watching the games on the big screen in the comfortable new Mabee

 

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4 hours ago, Ting said:

My summer checklist for Conner:

1. get some weight back on(defend summit bigs), 2. get that 3 ball % back to high 30s% (great pick and pop opportunities with max), 3. work on his entry post passing (for regular back door cuts to max and Lufile- on the double screen for max) 

recipe for getting back to late March tourney and us watching the games on the big screen in the comfortable new Mabee

Agree 100%

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On 5/4/2022 at 3:07 PM, Old Titan said:

The bottom guy on a 1-3-1 must defend from corner-to-corner, with speed and control.

And Mills has already shown he loves Herron out top on the ball in full-court prssure situations.

Consider this:  Williams underneath in the 1-3-1, Vanover in the middle, and Herron out top.  Whoever else on the wings. 

NO ONE in the Summit League is driving down the lane on that line-up.

Is it freakin' basketball season yet?!  I can't wait...

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7 hours ago, Ting said:

My summer checklist for Conner:

1. get some weight back on(defend summit bigs), 2. get that 3 ball % back to high 30s% (great pick and pop opportunities with max), 3. work on his entry post passing (for regular back door cuts to max and Lufile- on the double screen for max) 

recipe for getting back to late March tourney and us watching the games on the big screen in the comfortable new Mabee

 

#3.  Work on a little skyhook, (ala Kareem Abdul Jabbar)  How you gonna stop Max, McBride Lufile AND a Vanover skyhook? 🤑

...and good defense, play good defense...

Rob

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Great article about Vanover.  Thanks OT for sharing. 👍🏻

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Not often that you see the phrases 7’3” and forward on the same graphic.  🤣

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6 minutes ago, TrueBlue82 said:

Not often that you see the phrases 7’3” and forward on the same graphic.  🤣

I noticed that as well. Absolutely NOBODY wants to be a center in today's game. If a 7'3" guy isn't a center then WHO is?

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Here’s hoping “7-foot forward” isn’t just the current terminology for “tall guy who should be mixing it up in the paint but would rather stand outside and jack threes”.

Shooting Shoot Your Shot GIF

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48 minutes ago, Old Titan said:

Here’s hoping “7-foot forward” isn’t just the current terminology for “tall guy who should be mixing it up in the paint but would rather stand outside and jack threes”.

From watching some of Connor's game tape, I think this is an accurate description of his preferred style of play.  However, in our offensive game plan, it just might work... if he can MAKE the threes. 

I remember (sheepishly) that I was very critical of KO after he went 1-for-6 from three in our 2020-21 season opener at Missouri, thinking that he wasn't helping the team or playing to his strengths. As we all now know, his three-point shot-making was a key element in ORU's success throughout the remainder of the season and the magical NCAA tourney run.  In fact, after his 1-6 start, KO made 47.8% of his three point attempts.  If Connor can do that, I say "Jack 'em up, son!"

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He kinda has a resemblance to Dirk Nowitzki. We can only hope.

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At the end of the day, Connor is basically a backup to Lufile.  He will probably play about 10-15 minutes per game and give the Eagles say: 6 points, 3 rebounds and one block shot every night.  He is 7'3 and 225 pounds, so definitely not a banger inside.  If he gets a mismatch (6'4 guard on him), then Connor will post up inside.  Otherwise, he will shoot the three (32 percent) and clean up a few misses on the offensive boards.  That is his game in a nutshell.

ORU will still need Big Maple to be healthy and perform like he did at the end of last year.  So, in other words be a double double guy night in and night out.

I like Connor and think he will help the team next year, but he is not the complete answer to ORU's problems in the paint.  Hopefully Herron can also put on some weight in the offseason and help on the inside next year.  It will take a team effort: Lufile, Herron, and Connor to solve the Eagle's inside game woes.

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S....T....I....F....F.....🙄

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