eagle88 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Now the speculation begins. If I am correct everyone except Francis could return. Here is how I see it: Max will leave to play his senior year at a bigger school. Plet, Bergens, Clover, Luca Tekavcic will transfer. This will open up spots from the transfer portal or for incoming freshman. I am 50-50 on whether Eli stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenj Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 If these things happen ORU will be in for a long season next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle88 Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just for the record I have no inside information. This is just a guess. The transfer portal could be a game changer as we could land some really good players that could contribute right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eaglefan 21 Posted March 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2022 A few thoughts on the state of the roster. It's crazy that Plet,Clover, and Bergans have been in the program two years and from a fan's perspective, I still have no idea what their capabilities are. I think Clover could be a tremendous rim protector but he's timid on offense. I remember Mills mentioning in an interview early in the season that they were trying to get Plet's 3 point shot down so he could play the small forward position but we never saw any of that. I'm guessing Bergans is waiting to make a decision based on what Max does. I think he has potential and is a couple inches taller then Max but if he is relegated to the bench for another season then transfering might be a better option. My bet is that all three are the most likely to transfer. Herron is the wildcard. You only need to watch him play for a couple minutes and know that his potential is through the roof and surely other coaches have noticed that as well. If Lufile stays, then Herron needs to also be in the starting lineup. What a mismatch problem for opposing teams to figure out but unfortunately we never saw it this year. Luka propably stays and gets the back up center role if Clover transfers. I actually really like what I saw from him. Could be a great pick and pop threat as he grows. Elijah Lawrence has had such a small sample size I don't really know what we have with him. He seems to like ORU and might be happy with a reserve role but he's pretty undersized. I read a university piece on him that he has created a clothing line which is kind of cool. Phipps seems to be a favorite of coach. He's a local guy. I'm guessing he will be back but I don't know that his role needs to be any bigger. Jurgens and Thompson- I think Carlos stays and finishes his career at ORU. I could see Thompson moving on. I don't think his role got any bigger and I really thought it would. Both are tall, solid defenders. DJ Weaver seems to like the culture at ORU and i'm betting he stays. Would love to see him play the 3 next year or the backup 4 spot. He grew as a shot blocker but he just isn't big enough to guard the 250 pound forwards in the summit. Lufile- I'm about 75% sure he comes back. He'd be a reserve on good power 5 team but he lacks any outside game at all. I think he likes ORU and the way the school embrached him during his health and family issues. With a full off-season, I think he comes back and averages 16 pts and 12 rebounds Mcbride- Regardess of max, I hope and pray that he stays. He is a strong defender, great shooter, and an animal at attacking the rim. If Max stays, I think he takes the starting 2-guard role from the get go. If max leaves, I think he should assume PG duties and we up our size at all other positions to match our summit league foes. I think he has player of the year potential. Max- Man, i'm so grateful for Max Abmas. But I can write that piece later should he leave the program. I don't know that he owes us anything else and I think he grew this year as the unquestionable #1 scoring option. He was still top 5 in the nation in scoring with every team game planning around him and he appeared to be injured nearly the whole season. I looked up some Mock drafts for the nba and he is not even a second rounder for most of them. I wouldn't blame him if he transfers but I don't know that averaging 12 points and playing 20 minutes a game for a Big 10 or Big 12 school would do it for him. He would be very undersized and he wouldn't have nearly the green light that he does at ORU. I'm 50/50 but I think he stays and finishes out his career at ORU and we put his name in the rafters in a few years. Would love to hear everyone else's thoughts. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle88 Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 Good analysis Eaglefan 21! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Henderson Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Weaver might want to transfer to a school where he can play on the wing as a small forward. Then he could shoot threes/ mid range jumpers and guard guys his own size. He has been at ORU for four years including the injury season of 19-20. Eaglefan 21 covered the subject very well. Should be an interesting off season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleManiac Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, eagle88 said: Now the speculation begins. If I am correct everyone except Francis could return. Here is how I see it: Max will leave to play his senior year at a bigger school. Plet, Bergens, Clover, Luca Tekavcic will transfer. This will open up spots from the transfer portal or for incoming freshman. I am 50-50 on whether Eli stays. Lacis just played his fourth season, with last season not technically counting towards eligibility. So my understanding is that he COULD return if he chose to, though I doubt he does. The only other player from our core rotation that I see leaving is Max. He may stay, but I think he is more likely than not to leave, unfortunately. Admittedly, it's probably in his best interest. It'll be a devastating loss for us - he has carried us in so many ways and covered over so many deficiencies our team has. As for the reserves, who knows. They may all leave for all we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle88 Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 I'm sure like many of you on the message board we are all trying to get over our depression from last night. If this is any consolation it appears the ORU baseball team is really good and could have a special season. They are 9-2 and play Wichita State this afternoon. It is so difficult to see what happened last season and have a big core of the team returning only to end the season like we did last night. Better days ahead my friends! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Henderson Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 If the reserves (Bergens, Clover, and Plet) left then they would probably have to transfer down to D2 or D3, just like Stevens and Jones did last year. When you sit on the bench for two years then D1 schools probably do not want you on scholarship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cornelius Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Eaglefan 21 said: It's crazy that Plet,Clover, and Bergans have been in the program two years and from a fan's perspective, I still have no idea what their capabilities are. The frustrating thing is that a developed big would open up so much for guys like Abmas and McBride. ORU doesn't have a forward who you can throw the ball to in the post and get a bucket. Teams figured that out. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmh8286 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr. Cornelius said: The frustrating thing is that a developed big would open up so much for guys like Abmas and McBride. ORU doesn't have a forward who you can throw the ball to in the post and get a bucket. Teams figured that out. Get Kyan Brown back down here on staff. I hate seeing him on the NDSU bench. I have great admiration for him. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idig32 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Keenan Henderson said: If the reserves (Bergens, Clover, and Plet) left then they would probably have to transfer down to D2 or D3, just like Stevens and Jones did last year. When you sit on the bench for two years then D1 schools probably do not want you on scholarship. I agree with this. I actually think most guys will stay. Max, McBride, Jurgens, Thompson, Weaver, and Lufile should all stay. Phipps will stay, and Herron should have an opportunity to replace Lacis. There might will be some guys who didn’t play much transfer out, which could give us an opportunity to bolster our depth some more on the perimeter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle88 Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 Watching SDSU and NSSU tonight reminds me of how we played last year in the Conference tournament. Both schools play really good team ball and have good chemistry. I really think that is something we were missing this year. Our chemistry is good but not what it was last year. Hopefully we get it figured out next year and get back to the Big Dance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg1984 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, eagle88 said: Watching SDSU and NSSU tonight reminds me of how we played last year in the Conference tournament. Both schools play really good team ball and have good chemistry. I really think that is something we were missing this year. Our chemistry is good but not what it was last year. Hopefully we get it figured out next year and get back to the Big Dance. Truth! My thoughts exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Titan Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 BOLD PREDICTION: If SDSU wins a game or two in the tourney, their coach Henderson will be a hot commidity, and could even land at 11th & Harvard as Frank Haith's replacement. Also would't be surprised to hear Kyan Brown and/or Sean Sutton mentioned for Omaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORUJason Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I do not think Sean Sutton will ever be a head coach again. He inherited a strong OSU program and ran it into the ground. Then he went to ORU as the lead assistant and ORU became progressively worse each year due to an obvious lack of recruiting. Surely he is one contributor to Texas Tech’s success, but I think there are many better candidates than him. I could definitely be proven wrong. However, Kyan Brown would probably deserve an interview at Omaha. I think he might become a head coach in the Summit League sometime over the next several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleManiac Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Old Titan said: BOLD PREDICTION: If SDSU wins a game or two in the tourney, their coach Henderson will be a hot commidity, and could even land at 11th & Harvard as Frank Haith's replacement. Agreed - no chance Henderson is back next year, unfortunately. However, interest in him is already well beyond TU's class of potential hires, let alone if he wins a game in the tourney. TU is not the job it was just a few years ago. They don't have any money, the athletic department as a whole is floundering, and the AAC is set to take a significant step back with most of their best programs leaving. They'll get a good assistant ready to give head coaching a try or a solid D2 head coach ready to make the jump (i.e. Mizzou). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglefan 21 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Probably going to need to start a new topic for this but some dominoes are already falling. Ethan Igbanugo and Paul Bruns are entering the transfer portal. That's a huge blow to a north dakota team that was struggling this year. Bruns was a nice player. https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/paul-bruns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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