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SDSU and NDSU Baseball & Softball in the Mid-Con


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i feel that. I really wish ORU would get an invite to the MVC, from my understanding, our baseball squad was given the associate invite to the mvc a while back, with a boost in RPI and improve the facility a little, we would fit in great....but ORU doesn't want to leave the Mid-Con....

oh well....

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From what I understand, the MVC invited us to join baseball as an associate member several years ago. ORU turned them down because it would have been a slap in the face of the conference. Sometimes life is hard.... It would be great to be a part of a baseball conference like the MVC. But we need to be loyal to the Mid-Con - at least for now.

It would be nice for some of them to take baseball a little more serious. ORU's domination of the league in baseball is simply incredible. It has to be a little demoralizing for the other schools to know that they will never have a chance in the league.

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One thing that SDSU and NDSU bring to the tabel that the other schools under consideration don't is land grant status.

Here is a map showing all the Morrill Act of 1862 Land Grant schools in the USA:

http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/technical/land/lgif/m2784l.gif

It is not every day that a conference can add such a school and the Mid-Con is rumored to be in a race with the Big Sky to see who will get us.

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Guest Rob Marshall
The point is do you want to take a bus load of athletes on what would be a 3-hour plus bus ride in that part of the country in the middle of late fall-winter-early spring when you don't have to?

WEATHER is as much of a concern as travel costs. You guys don't exactly have mild winters (or springs or falls for that matter).

BTW, go on Orbitz and try to find a flight from Tulsa to Brookings. You can't do it without going through Minneapolis and THEN Omaha!

Great points CB; anyone run the numbers on chartering flights like the Valley schools do? Very similar challenges getting to/from markets like Omaha, Cedar Falls, Normal, Carbondale, Terre Haute, Evansville, Wichita and Springfield.

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Ok, after being a former ORU athletic dept employee, currently living in North Dakota, this is a DREAM COME TRUE!!! Granted, we can't all have our dreams come true, but I'll take it! After being up here and following the NDSU sports, I can honestly say the Mid-Con really needs NDSU. From a competition stand-point, ORU will only get better playing truly competitve, good teams, and NDSU can all-around provide that competition. Understandably, the logistics of travel aren't ideal, but like stated before, the Mid-Con sucks for travel arrangements...just think of all the airline miles your racking up, Blevins!

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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/college/3874150.html

As it completes its third season as a Division I program and its first as an independent eligible for the NCAA Tour-nament, Dallas Baptist harbors no false hope of earning an at-large tournament berth. With an RPI around 70, the Patriots realize that call won't come this season.

What the Patriots wanted to accomplish this season was to move a step closer to a conference affiliation, whether in the Western Athletic Conference, the Mid-Continent or Conference USA.

Last summer, the nine baseball coaches in C-USA conducted a preliminary vote for inclusion of Dallas Baptist. Six coaches voted against the measure, with Rice, Houston and Southern Mississippi voting in favor of bringing the Patriots aboard.

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According to the Dallas Baptist website, they are D-1 for baseball, D-2 for basketball, and all other sports compete in the NCCAA (which I assume is for Christian colleges), but they have 5000 students.

It seems that they have established a winning baseball program over the last few years with a competitive schedule, and have an RPI around 70.

If the Mid-Con offered Dallas Baptist an opportunity to compete, I'm sure they would jump at it.

With the stability concerns that we have been discussing concerning the Mid-Con, especially with losing 2 baseball programs with Valpo and Chicago State leaving, and potentially losing a 3rd baseball program if Southern Utah were to join the Big Sky, I see no downside to the Mid-Con extending an invitation to a strong team. They would immediately be the 2nd best team in the conference.

The downside for ORU would be that winning the Mid-Con tournament would NOT be an afterthought anymore, but improving the RPI of the conference could only improve the opportunity for ORU to get an at-large bid if we were to lose in the Mid-Con baseball tourney.

Also, having a Mid-Con presence in Dallas could only help our recruiting in the DFW area. I don't know why we haven't already extended an invitation to DBU.

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Heh, I have a co-worker who is from Texas and has a daughter (or two maybe) at DBU. Would make for a nice rivalry.

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