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ORUTerry

I’m traveling so I didn’t see the game - and wasn’t able to listen either. My quick take is that South Dakota couldn’t handle Obanor - and Malone has raised his game. Having another guard that is a scoring threat is really big. Nice win by the good guys. 

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Old Titan

After looking at the standings following this win today, I would be VERY surprised to see ORU finish anywhere but 5th in the regular season race; facing either North Dakota State or Purdue-Fort Wayne in the first round (with Omaha as a long-shot 4-seed).

....and if anyone can make a legitimate case for something other than that, feel free to respond.

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theeagleman5

Damn....just checked the score.... TheEagleman expected close and teased ORU +14 and Over 135.5....plus took ORU +8 straight up....easy wins today....amazed the Good Guys played so well on the road...Coach Mills is a genius!!...:hc_mills:

 

 

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ORUParentLurker

This team has been playing better on the road for most of the season.  All the rough losses came with Kearns out.  It amazing what a veteran gaurd can do for you.

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TrueBlue82

OT -

i would agree that 5th place is ORU’s most likely seeding. However, as I was looking at the season schedule this morning, I found myself commenting (surprisingly) that “all the remaining games are wInnable”.  And, then the guys come through with their strongest performance of the season, and without EMan to boot. 

I would make a slight revision to your statement - which really doesn’t change a thing: I would be VERY surprised to see ORU playing in any other than the 4-5 game.  

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Old Titan
15 minutes ago, TrueBlue82 said:

OT -

i would agree that 5th place is ORU’s most likely seeding. However, as I was looking at the season schedule this morning, I found myself commenting (surprisingly) that “all the remaining games are wInnable”.  And, then the guys come through with their strongest performance of the season, and without EMan to boot. 

I would make a slight revision to your statement - which really doesn’t change a thing: I would be VERY surprised to see ORU playing in any other than the 4-5 game.  

Even if ORU wins out and finishes at 10-6, I think they'll still be in 5th place:  they're no better than 2 games behind everyone in front of them in the loss column, and none of those three teams has played 12 games yet as ORU has.

Simply put, NDSU, PFW and UNO have more chances left to win 10+ games than ORU does to win 10 total.

The one thing that might get interesting would be ORU ending in a 3-way tie for third with NDSU and Omaha (assuming PFW is alone in 2nd). 

ORU could win the tiebreaker in that scenario if they sweep Omaha and split with the Bi-zon, thus playing in the 3-vs-6 game after all.

Any ties involving PFW, however, do not bode well for ORU, having been swept by the Dons already.

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Dr. Cornelius

Remaining games:

  1. SDSU (10-1): @Omaha, @NDSU, P-FW USD, WIU
  2. Omaha (8-2): SDSU, P-FW, WIU, @NDSU, @ORU, @Denver
  3. P-FW (8-3): @Denver, @Omaha, @SDSU, UND, NDSU
  4. NDSU (7-4): ORU, SDSU, Omaha, @USD, @P-FW
  5. ORU (6-6): @NDSU, @UND, @WIU, Omaha
  6. USD (3-8): @WIU, Denver, @SDSU, NDSU, UND
  7. WIU (3-8): USD, @Omaha, ORU, @Denver, @SDSU
  8. UND (3-9): ORU, Denver, @P-FW, @USD
  9. Denver (2-9): P-FW, @USD, @UND, WIU, Omaha

I agree that it looks almost impossible to catch Fort Wayne so the 4/5 game looks certain. I would imagine the coaches will be scouting NDSU over the next few weeks since it seems so locked in but you never know what might happen...

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ORU GRAD

Providing we end up 4 or 5, what is the scenario for second round matchups. Winner of 4/5 would play whom? Can someone share that to see who the 2nd round opponent would be if we can get out of round one?  Would that be the winner of 1/8?ThanksORU GRAD

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Dr. Cornelius

The Good:

  • Malone had his best game since BYU where he had (12 Pts, 7 Assists, 1 TO, 44FG%). He provided good minutes, was able to take some of the pressure off of Sam, but most importantly USD wasn't able to cheat off him on defense. If Malone keeps this recent streak up it will help the team immensely.
  • Kearns flipped the switch at halftime; scoring 11 of his 17 points in the second. His determination to get into the lane and not settle for outside shots set the tone on offense.
  • Very few players in the Summit (if any) can guard Obanor one on one. If he continues to develop his outside and mid-range shot... watch out. It wouldn't surprise me if he is in the running for POY next season.
  • Emir!!!  Great to see Emir rewarded for running the floor on that dunk.

The Bad:

  • Nothing bad about a road conference win.

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ORUParentLurker

Sign me up for a four seed riding a six game winning streak 🙂

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ORUIllini
19 minutes ago, ORU GRAD said:

Providing we end up 4 or 5, what is the scenario for second round matchups. Winner of 4/5 would play whom? Can someone share that to see who the 2nd round opponent would be if we can get out of round one?  Would that be the winner of 1/8?ThanksORU GRAD

Yep, it would be South Dakota State, barring an upset by whoever is the 8 seed.

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TrueBlue82

If we lose on Thursday in Fargo, we are virtually guaranteed a 5.  If we win, things could get very interesting.  Either way, we are likely to be THAT team that no other team wants to face.  

 

Loved how Obanor responded to the ESPN on-court reporter after the game.  She tried to get him to talk about HIS great game, and all he would talk about was the TEAM.  This attitude bodes very well for team chemistry. 

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Keenan Henderson

Obanor, nicknamed K.O., has had the best freshman season of any ORU player since maybe Caleb Green.  He can drive the ball, shoot outside or inside, and is a great rebounder.  He has to be the surprise of Coach Mills first recuriting class.  K.O. should win newcomer of the year in the Summit League.

 

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theeagleman5

Obanor is a total beast....can't believe TheEagleman is saying this but I believe he might be better than Caleb was as a freshman.....the Thursday game vs. Denver and today's 28 and 14 on the road convinced me of that and K.0. doesn't have the talent around him that Green had.....also,  ORU much better off getting the 6 seed rather than a 5....we want to avoid SDSU as long as possible....:tb-blue:

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ORUParentLurker

I hate to disappoint everyone.  But these guys arent getting a six seed.  It wouldnt surprise me if they win out.

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ORUJason

At this point Caleb Green was better as a freshman, but that takes nothing away from Obanor because he is already playing such an important role and is continuing to improve.  He is also one of our best free throw shooters and I remember Coach Mills saying that Kevin has spent a lot of time practicing free throws.  He is absolutely our go to scorer right now and a healthy Eman will definitely benefit from the attention KO will draw defensively.

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Old Titan
7 hours ago, ORUParentLurker said:

I hate to disappoint everyone.  But these guys arent getting a six seed.  It wouldnt surprise me if they win out.

No one in this entire thread has suggested that ORU would be the 6th seed. 

What has been discussed is that ORU stands a better chance of making the finals by playing in the 3-vs-6 game than the 4-vs-5 game, thus avoiding #1 SDSU in the semis.

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Old Titan

From the moment they took the floor as starters in November of their freshman year, Caleb Green and Ken Tutt were transcendent, “go to” players who routinely scored 20+ points a game EACH. 

Dominque Morrison also took the reigns as a freshman starter and was the undisputed leader of the team from his first few games. 

While Kevin Obanor has certainly stuffed the stat sheet lately, let’s remember he wasn’t even a starter until injuries made it a necessity.  It remains to be seen whether he will return to 6th man status once E-man returns.

Lets enjoy what he’s doing during this fantastic run, but let’s also keep things in perspective when comparing him right now to the all-time ORU greats.

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Old Titan
9 hours ago, Keenan Henderson said:

K.O. should win newcomer of the year in the Summit League.

Three years ago, the Summit League did away with Newcomer OTY and split it into Freshman OTY (which E-man won two years ago) and Transfer OTY (Austin Ruder somewhat surprisingly won this award last season). 

If Obanor continues his torrid conference season, he would indeed appear to be a lock for Freshman OTY, and may add some additional hardware as 6th Man OTY and an all-conference selection. 

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Eaglefan 21

Looked up mike daums freshman stats. He scored 15.2 points a game and 6.1 rebounds along with 29 made three pointers. Obanor is 14.6 and 7.2 along with 21 made three pointers. Very similar stats. Daums freshman team also had extremely talented guards in Bittle, Parks , and Marshall to facilitate the offense. Obanor is doing a lot with a less talented team around him.

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ORUalum

The crazy thing about Obanor is that he is almost a 50-40-90 guy as a freshman.  As a young player, he just does not seem to take bad shots or force his game.  Through 27 games (playing in 23 and starting 6) of his RFr campaign, Obanor is sitting at 58.5 -- 40.4 -- 82.1😲😲😲  WOW!!!

By comparison, EMan's split as a RJr (23 gp and 21 starts) is 54.1 -- 25.0 -- 70.6

http://oruathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/teams/oralroberts?view=lineup&r=0&pos=st

 

EDIT: Obanor in conference play (12 games, 3 starts) ---  56.6 -- 43.9  -- 87.1

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Old Titan
53 minutes ago, ORUalum said:

The crazy thing about Obanor is that he is almost a 50-40-90 guy as a freshman.  As a young player, he just does not seem to take bad shots or force his game.  Through 27 games (playing in 23 and starting 6) of his RFr campaign, Obanor is sitting at 58.5 -- 40.4 -- 82.1😲😲😲  WOW!!!

By comparison, EMan's split as a RJr (23 gp and 21 starts) is 54.1 -- 25.0 -- 70.6

http://oruathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/teams/oralroberts?view=lineup&r=0&pos=st

 

EDIT: Obanor in conference play (12 games, 3 starts) ---  56.6 -- 43.9  -- 87.1

I will say this about Obanor:  he has so far been a much better three-point shooter than Caleb as a freshman (not even sure Caleb TOOK a three in his freshman year), and has also been a great free throw shooter, which is invaluable when playing on the blocks.

Making your free throws as a post man is the difference between 14 points a night vs. 20+ points a night, as Caleb proved so well throughout his career.

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Dr. Cornelius

Obanor is actually shooting better from 3 as a freshman than DoMo ( .404 compared to .333 ) with the same amount of attempts per game (2.4)

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