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Should we anticipate staff changes?

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Old Titan
15 minutes ago, GoldenEagleFan said:

I agree with this, Old Titan, to an extent. I think there are more players in the world that can come in and contribute right away at a mid to low major than at a high major. So it actually would be easier to have a player “in your back pocket” for this level rather than for a higher level, in my opinion.

Players on the bench at a low major may have less ground to make up when it comes to rising up their own team's depth chart, but that doesn't make them any more competitive once they face the opposition.

Big fish in a little pond is just fat bait if it gets washed into the lake.

 

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Idig32
11 hours ago, Old Titan said:

good players who feel they could be part of something special the next season don't typically leave programs on the upswing - at any level.

This is true. I guess what I am thinking is that in ORU's situation -having a first year coach and two graduate transfer eligible players that were not recruited by said coach- one would expect to see transfers. We also got some transfers to come in to the program that look promising. The assistant coach turnover is similar. We had one holdover from the previous staff who left or was fired and we had one assistant who left for a higher level school. We replaced both assistants with seemingly great guys with great experience. 

It is interesting to see how different people perceive the same developments. I tend to be hopeful about the program, I have always been that way for no logical reason sometimes. So, here's hoping for a season that exceeds all our expectations!:eagles:

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ORUALUMNUS99

It will be interesting to see. I have to agree with previous statements that the new hire seems to be primarily for recruiting. Especially when you consider the job of most NBA assistants is player development not game planning. You would be surprised how many coaches are on staff of an NBA team because of their best recruit from college wanting them around. The warriors, thunder, spurs, and rockets all have assistants who are there primarily because a 4 or 5 star caliber NBA player wants to continue working out with them. 

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Old Titan

I'm scratching my head about all the Power 5 and NBA references in this thread, like ORU should take heed.

ORU can't follow the models of Power 5 and NBA teams. 

It can't even follow the lead of (true) mid-majors like Wichita State, or Butler, or Gonzaga, who probably spend more on basketball recruiting than ORU's entire men's basketball budget.

It must follow the blueprints of scrappy programs like Oakland, or Stephen F. Austin, or Loyola of Chicago, where the coaching staff has to wear a lot of hats when it comes to teaching, recruiting, scheduling, promoting, fundraising, dealing with boosters, etc.

I'm not sure (successful) low-major programs can afford to have a coaching staff made up of "specialists"- literally, or figuratively.

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Idig32

True OT, but I think Coach Mills has a grasp of that. His recent mining of European talent seems to be evidence of this. Whether these players pan out or not, it is at least an attempt to try to find players that can contribute where other programs might not be looking or have access. At least, that's the way it looks to me. However, I do think the ultimate success of this coaching staff will depend on whether or not they can develop talent. Mid/Low-Major teams that have success come tournament time always seem to have a few seniors that have developed over their careers. Some may have a freshman or a sophomore that bigger teams overlooked, but a lot of times they're starting juniors and seniors and bringing sophomores and freshmen off the bench. I'm hopeful about the future because it seems like this staff can recruit, and they have a good core of upperclassmen. But they'll need to really develop good players into great ones if they want to compete for conference championships. 

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Old Titan

I'm just hoping SOMEONE on this new staff can coach a little defense, to the 3-star recruits all the way down to the walk-ons. 

ORU ranked No. 296 nationally in scoring defense last season, surrendering 77.6 points per contest.

Which was actually an improvement from the previous season (and staff), which saw ORU give up an eye-popping 79.9 per game to rank 325th in Division-1 basketball.

Neither is gonna cut it. 

At some point, ya gotta stop the other guys from scoring so much, better coaches/talent/locker rooms/logos not withstanding.

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ORUTerry

Addition by subtraction............

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ORUParentLurker
20 hours ago, Old Titan said:

I'm just hoping SOMEONE on this new staff can coach a little defense, to the 3-star recruits all the way down to the walk-ons. 

ORU ranked No. 296 nationally in scoring defense last season, surrendering 77.6 points per contest.

Which was actually an improvement from the previous season (and staff), which saw ORU give up an eye-popping 79.9 per game to rank 325th in Division-1 basketball.

Neither is gonna cut it. 

At some point, ya gotta stop the other guys from scoring so much, better coaches/talent/locker rooms/logos not withstanding.

I'm sure Mills agrees with you.  The issue last season was no depth among the guards and wings.  We had to play a zone to protect them from fatigue AND to help our bigs since they weren't very good man defenders.  I think we'll see a lot more man with pressing and trapping next season.

Btw, speaking of our small budget.  I have it on good authority that we achieved our 8 new commitments for this year on just 13 official visits.  That pretty nice efficiency.

 

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ORUalum

good to see DoMo trying to reconnect with the program........he certainly was not happy with the firing of Sutton.

hope one of the coaches or someone in the athletic dept acts on this.

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ORUalum

Wait................what????????

Is this a case of Perry still being under contract during the summer and the author just confused or will he be back at ORU next season?  He's no longer even listed on the team website.

" we're still going to be pretty young this next year also, "

http://www.swtimes.com/sports/20180616/basketball-former-nhs-standout-has-hand-in-guiding-several-college-and-nba-players

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ORUTerry

Interesting....  I thought Perry landed at another school. 

Is this that ‘fake news’ I keep hearing about?

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Dr. Cornelius

Coach Perry was at the NBA Draft with former AAU players Trae Young and Michael Porter Jr.

 

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