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1 hour ago, ORUParentLurker said:

I saw somewhere Lacis signed. Don't remember where.

See, I'm not sure you (or anyone else) actually has.

I think you saw a social media post from Francis Lacis saying that he has committed to ORU.

Which was then shared by one (or more) of the ORU Basketball social media accounts, plus a couple of European recruiting sites and a handful of fans.

And which, coming as it does from a foreign teenager, is worth about as much as Enron stock until he signs, qualifies, and attends classes.

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Dr. Cornelius

He's on or has been on campus... so I would assume he has signed but not officially announced yet.

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ORUParentLurker

Those tweets clearly say "signed". :)

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Old Titan
10 hours ago, ORUParentLurker said:

Those tweets clearly say "signed". :)

And they clearly are NOT official sources. 

Look, I’m sure he’s probably locked up, but until he is actually locked up, he is NOT locked up.

”Know what I’m sayin’??” 

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Idig32

He signed! http://www.oruathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20180424fvllye 

I'm pretty excited about Mills (or I guess Patterson) getting these Euro guys. It makes a lot of sense, given the style of play in the Summit League. Really college basketball in general seems to be moving towards putting more of a premium on skills guys, and less on big, lumbering players.

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Old Titan

OK, NOW it's official. :-D

Next steps: 

• Qualifying academically with a Latvian transcript.

• Making sure he hasn't been financially compensated at some point in his Euro career.

• Hoping he doesn't sign with some low-level international pro team between now and August.

And if you think I'm dreaming this stuff up, EVERY ONE of these factors has affected an ORU signee from overseas in the past. 

(And I'm trying to think of the last international signee who fulfilled his collegiate eligibility at ORU - Luke Spencer-Gardner a decade ago?)

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ORUJason

I remember when Cameron Tragard only made it through his freshman season before signing with an Australian team several years ago.  Hopefully a degree is important to Francis.

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theeagleman5

Yeah....Surrrrre......:shake::-D:rofl::-D:shake:

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Dr. Cornelius
1 hour ago, Old Titan said:

OK, NOW it's official. :-D

Next steps: 

• Qualifying academically with a Latvian transcript.

• Making sure he hasn't been financially compensated at some point in his Euro career.

• Hoping he doesn't sign with some low-level international pro team between now and August.

And if you think I'm dreaming this stuff up, EVERY ONE of these factors has affected an ORU signee from overseas in the past. 

(And I'm trying to think of the last international signee who fulfilled his collegiate eligibility at ORU - Luke Spencer-Gardner a decade ago?)

I think LSG is the answer. Mikey Manghum (UK) played 3 seasons but not his senior year.

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Old Titan
23 hours ago, Dr. Cornelius said:

I think LSG is the answer. Mikey Manghum (UK) played 3 seasons but not his senior year.

And I'm pretty sure Mikey was a walk-on.  Great guy; decided to focus on getting his degree and supporting his young family.

As if you couldn't tell, I'm not a huge fan of signing European or South American players to a low-major D1 program like ORU.

Their "buy-in" to the program is typically suspect, particularly considering it's a private Christian school that requires living in a dormitory your entire career.  They tend to leave early and often, for whatever reason.

Signees from Africa and the English empire have historically been exceptions to this rule; not at all sure why...

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ORUalum
  1. Kerwin Smith (Sr)
  2. Miller (Jr)
  3. Eman (Jr)
  4. Kearns (Jr)
  5. Saunders (Jr)
  6. Jones (Jr)
  7. Fuqua (So)
  8. Ahmedic (So)
  9. Obanor (Fr)
  10. Milton (Fr)
  11. Weaver (Fr)
  12. Jurgens (Fr)
  13. Lacis (Fr)

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Dr. Cornelius
On 4/24/2018 at 2:09 PM, Old Titan said:

And I'm pretty sure Mikey was a walk-on.  Great guy; decided to focus on getting his degree and supporting his young family.

As if you couldn't tell, I'm not a huge fan of signing European or South American players to a low-major D1 program like ORU.

Their "buy-in" to the program is typically suspect, particularly considering it's a private Christian school that requires living in a dormitory your entire career.  They tend to leave early and often, for whatever reason.

Signees from Africa and the English empire have historically been exceptions to this rule; not at all sure why...

Unfortunately, the previous staff had similar problems with recruits from as close as across Lewis Ave.

The dorm requirement is an issue but could be alleviated somewhat with the new building... My only concern with recruiting European players is the transition in play style. I know it's a cliche or stereotype but most European players may not be used to the physical nature of the game stateside.

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ORUParentLurker

Is Latvia considered Europe?  The two NBA players I know from there are Porzingas and Davis Bertans.  Neither of those dudes are soft.  Emir is from Bosnia and he's quite the bruiser, just needs to be healthy.

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Dr. Cornelius
5 minutes ago, ORUParentLurker said:

Is Latvia considered Europe?  The two NBA players I know from there are Porzingas and Davis Bertans.  Neither of those dudes are soft.  Emir is from Bosnia and he's quite the bruiser, just needs to be healthy.

I agree, Emir is not soft at all. If anything he has to control his strength on the court like Miller did this season or opponents will look to flop.

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Old Titan
4 hours ago, ORUParentLurker said:

Is Latvia considered Europe?  The two NBA players I know from there are Porzingas and Davis Bertans.  Neither of those dudes are soft.  Emir is from Bosnia and he's quite the bruiser, just needs to be healthy.

Time for your "Geography Minute":  Latvia is one of the "Baltic States", along with Lithuania and Estonia.  They border the Baltic Sea, along with countries such as Finland, Sweden, and Denmark in northern Europe. 

Their populations are predominantly Caucasian ("Baltic" is an ancient Indo-European word that literally means "white"), as opposed to Bosnia and other former Soviet republics much further south, which feature a broader diversity of ethnicity in their populations (Slavic, Turkish, Arab, etc.).

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ORU GRAD
  1. Kerwin Smith (Sr)
  2. Miller (Jr)
  3. Eman (Jr)
  4. Kearns (Jr)
  5. Saunders (Jr)
  6. Jones (Jr)
  7. Fuqua (So)
  8. Ahmedic (So)
  9. Obanor (Fr)
  10. Milton (Fr)
  11. Weaver (Fr)
  12. Jurgens (Fr)
  13. Lacis (Fr)

I am assuming this is the final roster with some potential nonqualifying in the fall. This will be an interesting year, to say the least.   

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ORUalum

no Spencer Sutton, Fuqua moves off his pop's #24 to #12, and Miller goes from #52 to #34

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ORUJason

There is so little we know about the majority of players on this roster.  That could actually be a good thing.  You could have a starting five with the five returning players (Fuqua, Kearns, Nzekwesi, Miller, Ahmedic), although that is probably unlikely.  But 3-4 of the returning players might be starters with the most likely candidates Kearns, Nzekwesi, and Miller.

I am excited to see what Kevin Obanor and Kennedy Milton can contribute to the team.  Truthfully, I would think that all starting spots will be up for grabs.  

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ORUALUMNUS99
15 hours ago, ORUJason said:

There is so little we know about the majority of players on this roster.  That could actually be a good thing.  You could have a starting five with the five returning players (Fuqua, Kearns, Nzekwesi, Miller, Ahmedic), although that is probably unlikely.  But 3-4 of the returning players might be starters with the most likely candidates Kearns, Nzekwesi, and Miller.

I am excited to see what Kevin Obanor and Kennedy Milton can contribute to the team.  Truthfully, I would think that all starting spots will be up for grabs.  

Theres no way Miller and Ahmedic will not start together don't be surprised if Milton and Obanor both start their freshman years. 

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theeagleman5

Don't forget that these returning players were something like 21-42 over the past two seasons.....a mostly new starting line up isn't necessarily a negative.....TheEagleman is wondering why RJ would switch numbers from the old mans' #24 to #12....I guess since only half the player that his dad was it certainly makes sense.....:razz:

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ORUParentLurker

It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.  There are a lot of guys who can play at least two positions as well.  So we'll get to see if Mills like to play fast or not.  It will also be interesting to see how all these new guys shoot the ball.  I'm expecting a big improvement from Sam and RJ in year two shooting.  The chemistry is tricky as well.  You have 5 juniors and 6 freshman.  The juco guys put up over 15 shots a game last year and we had Noone getting 12.  In fact we had 5 guys get between 8 and 11 shots a game.  That's pretty balanced.

 

Personally I'm hoping for an up tempo game that gets our possessions up so that it doesn't matter who starts.  We need 8 or 10 playing good minutes and always attacking.

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theeagleman5

Not real sure about Kearns but TheEagleman does like RJ....I think he had his moments as a freshman and I look for improvement in 2018-19 especially if he hits the weight room.....:up:

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ORUTerry

Sam was thrown into a role (point guard) that is not his natural position. He performed admirably and seemed to be unflappable on the court. His year in juco (North Platte) indicates that he can shoot; his three-point percentage was 53.4% (63/118). I hope with a year of D-1 experience and being accustomed to the speed/tempo of the game at this level, he will be able to play his 'natural' position and provide quality outside shooting for the team.

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ORUParentLurker

Combo guards have made a comeback, just in case anyone wasn't paying attention.  The true PG who can't shoot is going away.  I'm also pretty sure that Mills wants to have 2 ball handlers on the court.  So I expect Sam and RJ to fill those requirements.  Whether or not you believe Sam is a PG, he still led the team and was 2nd in the whole conference in assists.   He played over a 1000 minutes, also 2nd in the conference.  Sam was also named the team MVP.  Keep your expectations low if you want.   They always say the biggest jump is from year one to year two.  Sam, RJ and Emir are all in Year Two.  

I don't think the backcourt is going to be an issue.  Mainly because I think we have solid players coming back and if the new guys beat them out it means they are VERY good.  We probably could worry again if we have two guards drop off the team early in the season like we did last year.

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