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2 hours ago, ORUalum said:

STRONG bounce back for ORU..............and holy cow can they not shoot FTs.

E-man made the one that mattered most, though, to go up 7 with 20 seconds or so left. Also, his 3-pt Bomb with the shot clock running down was huge! 

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ORUTerry

I was proud of how this team responded today after stinking it up on Friday. The whole team was focused and played with a purpose. Some general observations:

* I texted Doc at halftime and said that our big guys were open every time they slid off their screen/pick up top. Our guards did not make the pass to them. Ahmedic seems very good at this (European influence?). In the second half we adjusted and got several easy buckets off the ‘pick and roll’. Hopefully we emphasize this in the future. 

* I also noticed that our big guys were consistently beating their opponents down the court after defensive rebounds. We took advantage of this in the second half as well. 

* We noticed several nice plays called coming out of timeouts or clock stoppages. 

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ORU GRAD

I was so down after Friday's game but decided if I felt bad, I knew Coach Mills would feel worse.  I am so happy for Coach and his staff along with the effort I saw on the court. They  played a great 40 minutes of basketball and I am proud of the team effort. I really like Chris Miller and Emir Ahmedic play today. I have always felt if Javan and Emmanuel plus Miller could play together on the same page, we could be good. This was the proof today. Congrats to a great victory. :sunglasses:

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ORUJason

I am shocked and excited to see a much better performance than Friday night.  I honestly have no explanation for how poorly this team played 48 hours ago vs. their effort in today's game.  It helps when you shoot around 50% and a make a bunch of 3 pointers.  I will say that the defense is improving on a game by game basis and the 3-point line is being defended better than earlier in the year.  What I still do not understand is how Eman and Javan can play so poorly against a D-2 team and then play much better vs. a 9-2 D-1 team that has beaten SDSU and NDSU on the road.

The one thing I will give Javan credit for is that he seems like the most active rebounder when he is in the game.  Even against SNU, while he was offensively limited, he seemed like the only one out there who was consistently pulling down boards.  

The explanation about why Albert did not play today is a little strange.  Apparently Coach Mills said that it was not due to anything that Albert had done.  I find that explanation hard to understand.  As was mentioned earlier, when Albert is "on", he is a force down low.  That is why I was so frustrated vs. SNU.  Damen Bell-Holter was the same way at times, 25 points and 10 boards one game, and then 8 points and 5 boards the next game.  It makes you appreciate not just Caleb Green, but several of the other big men we have had over the years who, while not having Caleb's talent, could still be counted on for something close to about 16 points and 8 boards every game: Rocky Walls, Derrick Taylor, Marcus Lewis, Shawn King, Shawn Glover, and to a lesser extent, Larry Owens, Michael Craion, and Kevin Ford.

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ORU82

Congrats to Coach Mills, his staff and the team.  What a way to rebound after an embarrassing loss.  Hopefully you all start to realize that we can play with and beat better teams.  Now use this win as motivation for the rest of the season.  Go Golden Eagles!

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TheEagleman has been hard on the squad but this ORU team is playing shorthanded plus the heavy road schedule for the first month has to have taken a huge toll on the guys...these are just 18-20 year old kids and not seasoned pros....it's not an excuse but just sayin' that when you are playing the main guys 30-35 minutes every game with a short bench....that's brutal...hopefully with a week off here and they can get their legs back and give FGCU a good game next Saturday....the Eagles are 7-4 but still beatable.....proud of the boys coming back and getting a Big W today against a pretty good MSU team.....:eagles:

 

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titansforever

No one has mentioned RJ. He was a spark plug on the court, and he hit some nice shots. He has so much energy and enthusiasm. It is a pleasure to watch him play. He's also very smart when it comes to bringing the ball down the court, and knowing where his teammates are before he makes a pass. High b-ball IQ. Like father, like son.

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ORUTerry

RJ looked good yesterday. He was poised and under control. Did not force things. I also think Kearns had a great game (8 assists) and timely shots. Harris played well - especially on defense. 

The zone defense got better as the game went on. We extended it out - but not too much. The guys seem to be getting used to it. I also think we are running a couple of different versions (match up, etc.) 

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Old Titan

Nothing like damning with faint praise - was the crowd really that sparse?

P.S.  What did I tell you about Emmanuel shooting the occasional three?  They were both HUGE buckets at the time.

"Shoot your shot, Shooter!!" LOL

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titansforever

Crowd was small (more than 400, I think), but we were LOUD!

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Old Titan
Just now, titansforever said:

Crowd was small (more than 400, I think), but we were LOUD!

Yeah, I assumed it was hyperbole, but it still made me laugh.

And if you're wondering just how frustrated the MSU faithful are this morning after losing to a sub-250 RPI team on Sunday, one need only visit their message board, where the most active current thread is titled "FIRE LUSK!"  LOL

https://247sports.com/college/missouri-state/Board/59468/Contents/FIRE-LUSK-110647270

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Dr. Cornelius
19 minutes ago, Old Titan said:

Yeah, I assumed it was hyperbole, but it still made me laugh.

And if you're wondering just how frustrated the MSU faithful are this morning after losing to a sub-250 RPI team on Sunday, one need only visit their message board, where the most active current thread is titled "FIRE LUSK!"  LOL

https://247sports.com/college/missouri-state/Board/59468/Contents/FIRE-LUSK-110647270

In their defense Lusk is pretty bad.

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ORUTerry

Ha! I turned to the people near me right after the game and said: "We just killed Missouri State's RPI"....

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Old Titan
27 minutes ago, ORUTerry said:

Ha! I turned to the people near me right after the game and said: "We just killed Missouri State's RPI"....

According to RealTimeRPI.com, they dropped a whopping 59 points (from 60 to 119) for the 17th-worst single-game RPI drop so far this season:

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_drop_Men.html

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ORUalum
1 hour ago, Old Titan said:

P.S.  What did I tell you about Emmanuel shooting the occasional three?  They were both HUGE buckets at the time.

"Shoot your shot, Shooter!!" LOL

Me watching the game yesterday: No, no, no, no,..........................YES!!!!

 

Is he shooting 10% from 3 yet?  Despite some big shots yesterday, I want no part of depending on Javan and Eman to knock down 3's to win.

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titansforever

We saw some good 3-point shots yesterday, but I don't think we have a true, consistent 3-point shooter on this team.

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ORUTerry
1 hour ago, titansforever said:

We saw some good 3-point shots yesterday, but I don't think we have a true, consistent 3-point shooter on this team.

Not according to the stats...

Kearns:  26 of 63  (41.3%)    He was 3 of 5 yesterday

Ruder:  22 of 58  (37.9%)

Fuqua:   10 of 29  (34.5%)

White:  4 of 8  (50%).... j/k

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Old Titan
1 hour ago, titansforever said:

We saw some good 3-point shots yesterday, but I don't think we have a true, consistent 3-point shooter on this team.

In terms of percentage, what would you (or, anyone else) consider a "true, consistent 3-point shooter"?

30 percent?

35 ?

40 ?

Asking for a friend - thx. ;-)

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titansforever

I was just thinking that we don't seem to have a guy that everyone would refer to as "the 3-point shooter"--someone who has a knack for hitting 3's consistently. As far as percentage is concerned, I would probably say someone whose average is over 50% would be in that category. This is just me talking and thinking. And wishing we had a "specialist." 

 

 

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ORUTerry

Nobody shoots 50% from the 3-point line - although Tim Gill came close (48% or so) one season. I think if a player can consistently shoot 35% form the three-point line, he should be considered a 'specialist'. It is the equivalent of shooting 52.5% from 2-point area.

BTW, Kearns shot 53% from the three point line in Juco. I think he is a bit hampered by having to help run the point (he had 8 assist yesterday) and not playing his natural position. He also plays a lot of minutes and doesn't get much rest. And he is a bit short so getting his shot off can be difficult. I noticed that towards the end of the game Mills ran a specific play for Kearns to shoot a three pointer - and he made it. That is the definition of a 'specialist'.

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ORUParentLurker

42% or better is considered elite.  Technically, you'd want to break down the types of shots as well. i.e. % off of spot ups vs off the dribble.

Any good coach will tell you the shooting percentage is based a lot on shot selection and opportunity.  You can be an elite shooter but have a lower percentage simply because you are forced into tough shots all the time. 

That all being said.  I feel like Sam and RJ are going to shoot very well when open.  And both are streaky and can do some damage off the dribble but they will have some bad games as well.  Heck, Ruder is an elite shooter and he had a 2 for 11 game early in the year. 

The rest of the team will benefit from being left open.  Harris, Eman and Javan all can hit a shot here and there.  If they hit 1 out of 3 open looks that'll be big.

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titansforever

Okay. 50% is a dream. I'd settle for 40%. I think I'm just frustrated with watching guys take and miss 3-point shots. I know it has to do with the other team's defense, and us not getting a lot of good looks. But I saw some guys who were wide open yesterday and not taking the shot--maybe because they had been told to work the ball inside instead for a higher-percentage shot. It was good to see Chris Miller getting more minutes and doing well!

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Dr. Cornelius

ORU Season Leaders in 3-Point %

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titansforever

I think I just want Luke and Ken to come back! :smile: 

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